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162. Look I am glad that you are doing well enough

Reply to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #145)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:39 PM

Jan 2013

not to need that money but please don't make that decision for my family...

The lack of compassion on this issue on this forum is amazing to me. I thought people here cared about those not doing well, why couldn't those of you that think like this say i.e....

Obama should be a champion of SS cap elimination and a permanent 2 percent tax cut in SS for those making 50K and below...

or

Obama should ask for a VAT and leave the SS holiday in place I realize people with lower incomes needed that money

or

I wish Obama would look at alternative revenue streams like a banking transaction tax or a wall street transaction tax and held the middleclass and poor by strengthening SS and Medicare but at the same time removing the burden of paying the tax from those with incomes of 50K and below...

Explain to me why the hard nose stand against people like me?

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When Do Low-Income Americans Get Their White House Meeting? [View all] xchrom Jan 2013 OP

It's coming any day now. Obamas second term will free him up to move in the right direction. Autumn Jan 2013 #1

Like the fiscal cliff deal that ProSense Jan 2013 #8

Hi Autumn Jan 2013 #11

She ProSense'd ya. UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #53

Nah, I just very, very rarely read anything she posts. Autumn Jan 2013 #57

The President expanded Medicaid to 16 million Americans. ProSense Jan 2013 #65

Some people hate that you actually back up your posts with facts and links. NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #76

I concur. MADem Jan 2013 #126

The president provides for the poor with SNAP (food stamps) obama2016202428 Jan 2013 #109

Oh! Snap! merrily Jan 2013 #131

That remains to be seen, given that the SCOTUS took away the only merrily Jan 2013 #133

They loved you when you expressed disappointment in the president for something he did... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #154

The payroll tax cut needed to expire... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #145

I agree with it, too. It hurts Social Security. It was a "holiday" that was set to expire anyway. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #155

B.S. there are alternatives reply to my post below this n/t humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #163

The SS holiday... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #166

That is just not true and sounds like propaganda... humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #167

I agree that raising the cap is the BEST solution. But you can't deny that a payroll tax holiday Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #170

Maybe you missed my point I do deny it.. humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #172

HUH??? The payroll holiday DID hurt SS. There's no getting around it. Throwing tantrums won't help. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #169

Nuts... humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #174

I've always been in favor of raising the cap. I'm not sure if you can look at all 10,000+ posts. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #176

Look I am glad that you are doing well enough humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #162

I would rather he move in the correct direction but that's just me...n/t humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #116

"Correct direction" and "wrong direction" are not the only choices, though. merrily Jan 2013 #134

Low income people disappear after Campaign Season n/t leftstreet Jan 2013 #2

Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #30

Right. Middle Class. If you're below you get no pander. n/t Ed Suspicious Jan 2013 #35

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #40

Plus there's the whole "taboo" thing... Scootaloo Jan 2013 #63

Wow....well said.....no one likes the poor working class... lib2DaBone Jan 2013 #111

Johnson did more than talk about the poor. So did RFK--until he got shot. merrily Jan 2013 #136

That was 44 years ago. Scootaloo Jan 2013 #139

LBJ's ideals most certainly did bear fruit merrily Jan 2013 #143

Well said.... +1 KoKo Jan 2013 #158

Oh, well, fuck 'em then. OnyxCollie Jan 2013 #69

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #71

What was I supposed to get out of it? OnyxCollie Jan 2013 #72

Nothing ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #78

That was informative. OnyxCollie Jan 2013 #82

That's only as seen through your filter. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #88

I'll ask again: OnyxCollie Jan 2013 #91

I meant ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #93

LOL! OnyxCollie Jan 2013 #100

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #114

For certain purposes, yes. merrily Jan 2013 #142

We have not had a President who was President of all the people since..... nt merrily Jan 2013 #135

"Corporations are people, my friend." merrily Jan 2013 #138

It may be circular, though. merrily Jan 2013 #137

And "Middle Class" to our leadership =+$250,000/year bvar22 Jan 2013 #104

More like 450K or so they acted...n/t humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #165

seems like pander stopped at 450K annual income... humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #168

Toward the end, I did hear "middle class and those who aspire to the middle class" a few times. merrily Jan 2013 #132

I am starting to believe that... Shame really... humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #164

They do not need one, as there is a former community organizer in the White House Freddie Stubbs Jan 2013 #3

that former community organizer choie Jan 2013 #14

Your quip is ridiculous. Do you know why they're even there? Or is this just hyperbole? Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #17

Oh that's right, I'm sure they were there choie Jan 2013 #19

You spoke the truth! mntleo2 Jan 2013 #70

Sure, like health insurers were at the WH early in 2009 for reasons no reasonable person merrily Jan 2013 #144

Yup. +zillion graham4anything Jan 2013 #33

3 years as a community organizer, 1 year in a Wall St. firm and at least 17 years as a politician merrily Jan 2013 #140

+1 greatauntoftriplets Jan 2013 #152

Who? 99Forever Jan 2013 #4

As soon as they start making the same kind of campaign contributions. Equality for all. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #5

Time=Money antiquie Jan 2013 #23

Yes, but big bucks buy a lot of time. merrily Jan 2013 #141

The Poor DO pay a whole lot of taxes that the rich and middle class refuse to pay ... mntleo2 Jan 2013 #81

I have wondered the exact same thing... marew Jan 2013 #6

No one even pretends to represent us any more.. daleanime Jan 2013 #7

If true, who could Obama invite? JoePhilly Jan 2013 #60

Nuns on the Bus, Arundhi Roy, Howard Zinn, Francis Fox Pivon, Amy Goodman, mntleo2 Jan 2013 #90

well..... other than that there's no one I tells ya! Dragonfli Jan 2013 #107

Good, at least you are trying. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #149

The comment was "No even pretends to represent us anymore." merrily Jan 2013 #146

Jamie Diamond and Lloyd Bankfiend. HughBeaumont Jan 2013 #9

These criminal scumbags should be doing time. Initech Jan 2013 #73

+1,000,000,000 Kurovski Jan 2013 #103

I think a few years of hard labor JEB Jan 2013 #127

Meeting? We can meet by the kitchen door for scraps from the bankster's luncheon. infidel dog Jan 2013 #10

It's All about Power AZ Progressive Jan 2013 #12

When they start voting in all elections and letting politicians know they matter. bluestate10 Jan 2013 #13

You can give a politician 100 thousand dollars. You still only have one fucking vote. Autumn Jan 2013 #34

Your diatribe shows why liberals are easy to ignore. Facts are facts. bluestate10 Jan 2013 #123

Politicians go the way they do because they are Autumn Jan 2013 #150

when they start stroking big ass campaign checks datasuspect Jan 2013 #15

The o.p. is dishonest at best. There are all kinds of Americans in & out of the WH daily. Check... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #16

We don't need their fucking money leftstreet Jan 2013 #20

Ugh. Sounds like you might be happier in Venezuela. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #24

In the US wealth is seized from the workers leftstreet Jan 2013 #26

+1 forestpath Jan 2013 #27

Please proceed leftstreet. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #39

Okay leftstreet Jan 2013 #46

I agree with him/her. For 30 years that wealth has been stolen ....... socialist_n_TN Jan 2013 #108

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #41

We have seen their "jobs" plan for a generation TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #95

I just googled "jobs coming back to america", and got a gazillion results. Rhetoric is no..... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #98

I just googled "unicorns in teacups" and literally got 12.2 million hits TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #120

And 12.3 million for "when pigs fly" n/t durablend Jan 2013 #173

There were several meetings BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #18

Thank You. I'm sorry, but I am probably the only acknowledgement you'll receive. The o.p. had.... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #25

Yes I agree. BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #28

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #45

You wouldn't think we just had an election, would you? Where these "low income" folks came out in.. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #47

But, as I said, ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #55

I think the point was kurtzapril4 Jan 2013 #124

That's fine ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #160

Good catch, thought you are right that it likely won't count. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2013 #153

Thank you!! The ODSers are in rare form today. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #156

What day is it that hell will freeze over? That one I think. mmonk Jan 2013 #21

Well see, if they were intelligent enough to add anything to the discussion, they'd have money. Marr Jan 2013 #22

Another smear the president media article. Guess they want Jeb in 2016. imho graham4anything Jan 2013 #29

That's an awfully convenient way to shield the president from criticism ... markpkessinger Jan 2013 #86

so what. United we stand divided is Ralph Nader's game plan graham4anything Jan 2013 #87

The question is . . . markpkessinger Jan 2013 #96

to overturn the US Supreme Court on their 2nd Amend. and corporate personhood rulings. graham4anything Jan 2013 #97

Yeah, right. Hatchling Jan 2013 #102

The trick is to have a Lower Middle Class/Working Poor Class SuperPAC southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #31

the link is and anti Obama site. How do you like what third parties do to America? Gave us 9-11 graham4anything Jan 2013 #32

Common Dreams is Ron Paul's site?? Autumn Jan 2013 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author graham4anything Jan 2013 #42

Common Dreams is not Ron Pauls web site. Autumn Jan 2013 #48

it is sympathetic to his viewpoints, so if it quacks like a duck graham4anything Jan 2013 #50

I've read a lot of progressive stuff coming from there, Autumn Jan 2013 #51

It's bullshit. A quick Google search produces no such results: Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #75

Of course it's a lie, and Common Dreams is not Ron Pauls web site. Autumn Jan 2013 #77

I used to find the usual incoherent word salads funny. Now it's just annoying. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author graham4anything Jan 2013 #84

Common Dreams is not Ron fucking Pauls site. That is a lie. Autumn Jan 2013 #89

That's all over the place JReed Jan 2013 #125

Here is the Staff of Common Dreams. Just hit the link. KoKo Jan 2013 #159

Lots of things quack like a duck, progressoid Jan 2013 #92

Like disruptors? Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #94

An outright lie. JoeyT Jan 2013 #115

I just did and Google told me you're full of shit as usual (I'm paraphrasing of course): Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #74

You should send an email to the WH with this query in the subject line. gateley Jan 2013 #37

Make sure you name the members of "the poor" who must be invited. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #44

As soon as they get rich WhoIsNumberNone Jan 2013 #38

Who are their delegates? JoePhilly Jan 2013 #43

K&R woo me with science Jan 2013 #49

you aren't being "sensible" warrprayer Jan 2013 #52

Is this really representative of the Democratic Party and those left of center today? eilen Jan 2013 #54

no it isn't representative of the President. Can't speak for those who agree with this graham4anything Jan 2013 #58

Amen xchrom... A - Fucking - Men... K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #56

It's on the schedule OnyxCollie Jan 2013 #59

Never..the election is over.. Upton Jan 2013 #61

After they get rich Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #62

More wailing at the moon, eh? Xchrom, they are already there. jtuck004 Jan 2013 #64

To serve man appears to be a cookbook Dragonfli Jan 2013 #110

So when politicans say they are there to "serve" us... yikes. jtuck004 Jan 2013 #112

Excellent post Dragonfli Jan 2013 #113

When they each donate $1 million to his campaign begin_within Jan 2013 #66

Your kidding right we the poor don't matter if they admit we exist they admit the American dream is Arcanetrance Jan 2013 #67

This thread is misleading. CheapShotArtist Jan 2013 #68

You must understand that the ODSers will never stop bashing. It's what they do. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #157

This is the reason some people say both parties are the same. davidn3600 Jan 2013 #79

Maybe once one of them gets elected president, hughee99 Jan 2013 #83

Why does the White House need more bricks again? aandegoons Jan 2013 #85

Tells us all we need to know doesn't it? One of the myths JReed Jan 2013 #99

+1 nt OnyxCollie Jan 2013 #101

What a bunch of bullshit ProSense Jan 2013 #105

Facts don't seem to have any effect on you JReed Jan 2013 #119

The last time "The Poor" were mentioned in Campaign 2008... bvar22 Jan 2013 #106

Don't worry, the uber wealthy truly care about the rest of us. RedCappedBandit Jan 2013 #117

oh please....they don't. It doesn't matter who the president is. crazyjoe Jan 2013 #118

Oh no, really, it DOES matter who the president is. mountain grammy Jan 2013 #122

Greg Kaufmann's article on CommonDreams.org... ReRe Jan 2013 #121

When MannyGoldstein gets a post placed in the Left Column MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #128

OMG! DO We even exist? How funny! We voted and got punked....again. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2013 #129

When they pool their money and hire a lobbyist. merrily Jan 2013 #130

That's what Heaven is for. blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #147

K&R DeSwiss Jan 2013 #148

Not ann--- Jan 2013 #151

ever.............. 840high Jan 2013 #171

K&R closeupready Jan 2013 #161

Kick woo me with science Jan 2013 #175