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democrattotheend

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15. Interesting. I am actually proposing the opposite in my paper
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 10:41 PM
Jan 2013

I started out writing about why they should not raise the Medicare age, but decided to expand the paper to propose alternative cost-savings. I am proposing that Medigap be reformed to have some cost exposure rather than covering everything, in order to bring down the premiums and enable more people to be able to afford it, as well as saving Medicare money by forcing patients to ask questions about cost and consider cost in deciding whether to do an expensive procedure, particularly one with little chance of success.

The way I structured my proposal, it is targeted primarily at ensuring that cost is not completely absent from the equation when patients and their families make decisions about life support or aggressive treatments with low probabilities of prolonging life. Medicare spends 27% of its budget on care in the last year of life, and studies showed that 1/3 of Medicare beneficiaries who died in 2008 had surgery in their last year of life, 1/5 in their last month. The way Medicare is currently structured, there is no incentive for doctors or patients who have supplemental insurance to consider cost in making these decisions, and family members who have no cost considerations often want the doctor to do everything they can despite the low odds of success, which is both enormously expensive for Medicare and often causes the patient more suffering than if she had been moved to hospice or pallative care or allowed to go home and die on her own terms.

I know this is going to be controversial on both the left and the right, but Medicare spends a huge chunk of its budget on a relatively small number of beneficiaries. I think it's only fair that people who want to use public funds to keep someone on life support or perform expensive "hail Mary" surgeries ought to pay at least a small fraction of the cost.

On a broader level, I think ensuring that patients have some relationship to the cost of their care is important to prevent waste and overbilling. Without cost-sharing and with loose enforcement from Medicare there is little accountability for doctors who upcode or perform expensive and unnecessary tests, which often result in treatment procedures that were arguably unnecessary and cause the patient more discomfort and complications. For example, most men who have prostate cancer will die of something else before they become symptomatic. Having the surgery often causes impotence or incontinence or both. I wish I had known that before my dad had his prostate surgery...I would have at least encouraged him to seek a second opinion. But in his case, it was arguably the right thing to do because they caught it when he was 58. PSA tests are almost completely useless for men over 75 and the medical community does not recommend them, but they continue to be conducted (in part because of lobbying from oncologists and the diaper industry) and often lead to unnecessary surgeries that cause impotence or incontinence.

I know a lot of seniors are struggling and I don't want anyone to go bankrupt paying for healthcare, but I think completely disconnecting people from the cost of their care and not allowing the government to set any limits (heaven forbid, death panels!) creates so much waste and drives up costs and makes the system unsustainable in the long run.

Since I know the American people would never accept having Medicare set limits on how much it will spend per patient or refuse treatments that have a low probability of keeping someone alive, I am proposing restructuring Medigap and Medicare Advantage to require some cost-sharing so that people cannot insist on aggressive hail Mary treatment for terminally ill patients or unlimited life support without baring any of the cost.

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Well I will be using my Medicare for the first time tommorrow. I got a book. But I have to southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #1
Some, sort of, answers underpants Jan 2013 #2
Medicare Part B spartan61 Jan 2013 #3
my husband is also on medicare. ReformedGOPer Jan 2013 #31
Whew boy, are you in for a shock! Glitterati Jan 2013 #4
That is good advice, thanks democrattotheend Jan 2013 #5
Our first hand experience Glitterati Jan 2013 #11
Wow, I am so sorry democrattotheend Jan 2013 #16
Oh, they do. Glitterati Jan 2013 #18
BTW, here's annother FYI for you Glitterati Jan 2013 #33
Not necessarily stopwastingmymoney Jan 2013 #53
At what age, though? Glitterati Jan 2013 #58
51 now stopwastingmymoney Jan 2013 #64
doctors accepting Medicare fees yellowdogintexas Jan 2013 #51
Well, actually you just need to make sure the doctor accepts Medicare. If he/she does then you are Democrat 4 Ever Jan 2013 #34
Not this Doctor Glitterati Jan 2013 #36
There's a difference between accepting Medicare and accepting assignment. Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #67
I see...however, Glitterati Jan 2013 #69
Yeah, I get it. Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #70
You have to get a doctor/hospital that accepts assignment Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #66
My experience Old Codger Jan 2013 #6
I have Kaiser REP Jan 2013 #7
I'm thinking about Kaiser. silverweb Jan 2013 #60
I've been very happy with it REP Jan 2013 #61
Thank you! silverweb Jan 2013 #62
Your co-payment for each medicare service covered is 20% MindandSoul Jan 2013 #8
Interesting. I am actually proposing the opposite in my paper democrattotheend Jan 2013 #15
Can you document your statement that diaper companies are virgogal Jan 2013 #45
Sure, here's my source democrattotheend Jan 2013 #46
Thank you very much---I'll read it tomorrow--getting late here in the East. virgogal Jan 2013 #47
MandS, this is pure Single Payer system that I was protesting for back in 2009. ancianita Jan 2013 #68
wow dhol82 Jan 2013 #9
I had an endocrinologist refuse to treat me as a Medicare patient and virgogal Jan 2013 #10
Most doctors in Georgia refuse Medicare and Medicaid patients Glitterati Jan 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jan 2013 #30
My refusal was at a teaching hospital in MA. All of my friends are virgogal Jan 2013 #44
I'm guessing Glitterati Jan 2013 #50
Terrific guess---I'm in MA. virgogal Jan 2013 #65
Get a supplement. Yes, the 20% is hanging out there. TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #13
IF you can afford it. Glitterati Jan 2013 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jan 2013 #17
Already there. Glitterati Jan 2013 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jan 2013 #26
Medicare didn't deny the tests. Glitterati Jan 2013 #27
It's been a good deal for my grandpa democrattotheend Jan 2013 #23
That's because the Medicare premiums are heavily subsidized democrattotheend Jan 2013 #19
Regardless Glitterati Jan 2013 #21
Not necessarily democrattotheend Jan 2013 #24
Those are the facts Glitterati Jan 2013 #25
I meant not necessarily as in those with limited incomes should not necessarily buy them democrattotheend Jan 2013 #28
I think what you are missing is this Glitterati Jan 2013 #29
I understand that democrattotheend Jan 2013 #32
Trust me, no ONE is detached from the cost of their care Glitterati Jan 2013 #35
Those with Medicare and supplemental are detached democrattotheend Jan 2013 #38
That's simply not fair Glitterati Jan 2013 #39
I am trying to propose ways to lower costs for everyone democrattotheend Jan 2013 #41
Your assumption is simply WRONG, though Glitterati Jan 2013 #42
Here's an example of what I am talking about democrattotheend Jan 2013 #43
You're STILL blaming the wrong party Glitterati Jan 2013 #48
Here's what is needed Glitterati Jan 2013 #49
Don't like that. Downwinder Jan 2013 #56
My husband's pension withholds $300 from his monthly check Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #40
I have Medicare A and B plus a supplemental policy and Part D Downwinder Jan 2013 #22
When I had cataract/cornea surgery last year, Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #37
I don't know if this has been said here bkkyosemite Jan 2013 #52
My 82 year old mother has a medicare advantage plan...... mrmpa Jan 2013 #57
i just got medicare 6/12 when my husband DesertFlower Jan 2013 #54
The supplemental is really not a supplemental bkkyosemite Jan 2013 #71
yes. it is. DesertFlower Jan 2013 #73
Oh My, They sure do make it all so easy. It's all bull if you ask me. Single Payer Now !! YOHABLO Jan 2013 #55
HR 676 Single Payer Now Agreed! bkkyosemite Jan 2013 #72
Medicare is a blessing for us Thirties Child Jan 2013 #59
info on supplemental insurance 2pooped2pop Jan 2013 #63
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