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Honeycombe8

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70. No...he said you guys don't pay attention unless it's "the vanilla side" of town. Pretty racist.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:07 AM
Jan 2013

What if a leading professor said the media doesn't pay attention to elections unless too many from "the chocolate side" vote?

Really helpful.

But he's wrong. What this incident was about was that it was a mass murder - the largest in history in our country at a school. The shooter used a semi.

What he's talking about are guys in their own neighborhood doing drive bys or belonging to gangs, using regular pistols. An ongoing crime thing that happens in primarily large cities in the country, TO WHICH CITIES have tried to tackle.

Those are different sorts of incidents probably caused by different things. Here's what happened when Chicago banned guns, in an effort to deal with teh violence:

On Monday, the Supreme Court upheld a challenge to Chicago's 28-year-old handgun ban, which ultimately signals the end of the ban on handguns in Chicago and Oak Park. As gun rights were extended throughout the country by SCOTUS, Chicago was recovering from another violent weekend that left at least 29 shot and three dead.

Even with the gun ban in place, shootings in Chicago have been rampant. Last weekend, at least 52 were shot and ten killed in just three days, and this weekend the gunfire continued. According to CBS, shots were fired into a group of about 30 people Sunday night--likely a crowd gathering in Uptown after the Gay Pride Parade. Two men were wounded in the incident, at least one suffered serious injuries.


When the Supreme Court ruled Monday (read the entire decision here), they did take these violent weekends into account. From the Supreme Court decision:



Chicago Police Department statistics, we are told, reveal that the City's handgun murder rate has actually increased since the ban was enacted and that Chicago residents now face one of the highest murder rates in the country and rates of other violent crimes that exceed the average in comparable cities.


The lawsuit against the City was brought by Otis McDonald, with several other neighbors, a 76 year old Af. American, who wanted to buy a handgun for protection.

That case was covered by the media....a big gun control battle resulting in a S.Ct. case that defined how the 2nd Amendment applied to states/cities banning or regulating guns.

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I thought the exact same thing. nt Deep13 Jan 2013 #1
The question is why since malaise Jan 2013 #19
Tradition. Deep13 Jan 2013 #50
Little Ana was slaughtered and there was a little Asian girl as well malaise Jan 2013 #56
Dr West: If this is what it takes for real change to happen, please just stfu Hekate Jan 2013 #2
And I hope he realizes we would be equally outraged TexasBushwhacker Jan 2013 #5
I think he is saying that we have not been just as outraged. merrily Jan 2013 #7
That's because the shooting of one person at a time doesn't have the same impact as 26. n/t pnwmom Jan 2013 #29
Perhaps, but 26 instances of one person shooting to death one other person does Major Nikon Jan 2013 #67
After watching the contortions DU'ers went through to attack Trayvon Martin? Scootaloo Jan 2013 #9
I disagree. cali Jan 2013 #11
Correct. kentauros Jan 2013 #24
+1 and Co-sign Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #32
Amen ReRe Jan 2013 #6
Around the bend is correct. FSogol Jan 2013 #23
West and Limbaugh! elleng Jan 2013 #3
Limbaugh is trying to distract focus; West is trying to attract attention Scootaloo Jan 2013 #10
Not much love for Dr West here on DU and it has been going on for a while now stultusporcos Jan 2013 #12
+1 You need to post more. Scuba Jan 2013 #16
Perhaps not much love or room on DU for truth and reality some days either stultusporcos Jan 2013 #45
On the other hand, Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #73
All too true... haikugal Jan 2013 #28
One only has to think of the missing blond girl of the month to know there is plenty of truth TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #72
You are not trying to make any kind of comparison between West and Limbuagh sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #44
I took it more to be a comparison on that one salient point Major Nikon Jan 2013 #64
Yes, I definitely agree with you on the fact that the media doesn't bother to cover sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #71
Obama has remarked on this too, even in relation to Sandy Hook. freshwest Jan 2013 #4
I don't know about his particular point, but I do know that people merrily Jan 2013 #8
I got into it with a local activist recently about this... Earth_First Jan 2013 #13
That is a horrible statement. zellie Jan 2013 #14
The nation would have been just as shocked if 20 young children had been gunned down bluestate10 Jan 2013 #61
Some Legitimate Points, Dr. West. Now Shut The Fuck Up. (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #15
This was the subject of an early West Wing episode in 1999. ananda Jan 2013 #17
I don't think what he's saying is so outrageous gollygee Jan 2013 #18
Yes - it is leftynyc Jan 2013 #20
I don't see the two as being equivalent gollygee Jan 2013 #21
All I can tell you is how it looked to me leftynyc Jan 2013 #26
The purpose of identifying privilege is not to allow those without it a free pass Major Nikon Jan 2013 #74
Page 6? Bjornsdotter Jan 2013 #48
OK you so obviously didn't read it gollygee Jan 2013 #49
Not arguing the crime rate Bjornsdotter Jan 2013 #53
It wasn't anything by him gollygee Jan 2013 #54
You'd think a PhD would be bright enough to count dmallind Jan 2013 #22
Really? Casey Anthony? any of those other white kid of the month abductions/slayings? Sirveri Jan 2013 #77
Really? More false equivalency? dmallind Jan 2013 #78
If Dr. West lay aside his racist bullshit... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #25
Jeff, I agree the *per day* is the important point Hekate Jan 2013 #40
In Chicago, where they just had 500 homicides last year Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #41
I usually roll my eyes at Dr. West but... Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #27
I feel the same way Major Nikon Jan 2013 #75
Anytime you use language like that, expect your audience to tune you out. Hosnon Jan 2013 #30
Cornell West is a racist. He should join the teabaggers still_one Jan 2013 #31
Completely misreading the intent here CakeGrrl Jan 2013 #46
I am not just basing it on this, though his "vanilla" comment a disparaging racial remark, and it is still_one Jan 2013 #55
No...he said you guys don't pay attention unless it's "the vanilla side" of town. Pretty racist. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #70
so he does`t care about "vanilla" kids? madrchsod Jan 2013 #33
he didn't say that at all bigtree Jan 2013 #35
That's not what he said. He actually said the following.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #52
good points made -- not digging the rhetoric, tho bigtree Jan 2013 #34
P-Funk: "God bless Chocolate City and its vanilla suburbs" 1975 n/t deutsey Jan 2013 #37
I have the Parliament album, somewhere bigtree Jan 2013 #38
That's a cheap shot tularetom Jan 2013 #36
Adam Lanza did not give a shit about the color of his victims, or the racial make-up of those kids riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #39
The point is that the media and lawmakers apparently DO discern by color CakeGrrl Jan 2013 #47
Birmingham Sunday. Those girls were black. I remember.... Hekate Jan 2013 #42
He is the chocolate antithesis of Ann Coulter. There, I said it. Say anything outrageous. nt mfcorey1 Jan 2013 #43
West has a point. Further, one reason guns are so entrenched is that bigoted right wingers Hoyt Jan 2013 #51
Use any gun death obama2016202428 Jan 2013 #57
I understand his point but using the terms he did to describe this doesn't help his cause. Arcanetrance Jan 2013 #58
This I agree with Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #65
Innocent Babes vs. Gang Warfare? cbrer Jan 2013 #59
At least on of the kids that died was African American. nt bluestate10 Jan 2013 #60
Sorry I cannot go there Trailrider1951 Jan 2013 #62
This debate should be about gun control... not race. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #63
It should be about both Major Nikon Jan 2013 #68
It's like Sandy and Katrina. Americans say Katrina was NOTHING compared to Sandy. RB TexLa Jan 2013 #66
That's helpful. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #69
One the one hand... DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #76
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