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Glitterati

(3,182 posts)
48. You're STILL blaming the wrong party
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:26 AM
Jan 2013

It's not the patient nor the family who made those decisions - it's the doctor AND the hospital.

Let's just talk about my specific situation.

I have Graves Disease (hyperthyroidism). 22 years ago, I had an original diagnosis, got care, and was released from medical care. This instance was "supposedly" from a pregnancy and would not recur. At least that is what I was told by my Doctor.

22 years later, the day after Thanksgiving, my family insisted I go to the ER because I was so sick. My legs and feet were so swollen, you couldn't distinguish my shin from my foot, nor my lower leg from my thigh. Additionally, I couldn't walk up the 14 stairs to my kitchen, I could only CRAWL up them. Also, between Halloween and Thanksgiving, I had lost 60 pounds. Frankly, I looked (and still do) like a walking skeleton.

I finally relented and went to the ER. I was diagnosed with a deadly thyroid storm, congestive heart failure and fluid on my lungs.

I was admitted to the hospital, put on IVs, meds and complete bed rest.

When the endocrinologist came in and started talking surgery, I called my sister (a 2nd year medical student) to come home. She had worked at a clinic in downtown Atlanta while she was at Georgia Tech and I knew the doctors there were high quality, caring and cognizant of cost controls - they treat the underserved, the poor.

At any rate, we got the doctors at the hospital to release me, got an appointment at Good Sam and I went home after 3 days. Sick as a dog, with lots of prescriptions I can't afford, but on my way to better, cheaper care. In fact, the day after I got home, I passed out on a concrete floor and broke my nose because the meds dropped my blood pressure too fast. I refused to go back to the hospital. My single goal was to get to the cheaper doctors.

I did get to Good Sam, loved the doctor who stopped the surgery talk, explaining that in Europe patients stayed on the meds I was on for years without needing surgery!

So yesterday, I saw the endocrinologist at Good Sam. She is talking about, eventually, killing my thyroid completely with a radioactive iodine treatment I have to drink. Of course, this treatment presents risks to my daughter at home, because I will be radioactive for WEEKS. She will have to stay with family for a couple of weeks. But, it requires no hospitalization, no surgery. No more expensive medical bills. And, the medication they will replace my thyroid function with will cost 10 CENTS a day, instead of the one I am on now that costs $5.90 per day.

I'm getting the best possible care at a cost that is reasonable - not "usual and customary." My visit with the endocrinologist cost $25.00 yesterday. I got the bill from the hospital for THEIR endocrinologist who came to my room one time - $970.00 - whose only solution was surgery to remove my thyroid and eventually put me on the same $0.10/medication as above.

But, the ONLY reason that doctor released me from the hospital is because HE worked at Good Sam once and knows the doctors and standard of care there. He actually told me "you're a walking malpractice lawsuit if I let you out of here." Frankly, that's why I refused to go back to the hospital when I passed out - so I didn't scare this man half to death and he locked me in that hospital until I was transported by ambulance to Good Sam.

What you also have to understand is the good luck of having a med student in the family who knew where to go, and how to get me there.

Most patients are not so lucky.

Also, uninsured or insured, the outcome would have been exactly the same. Insurance would NOT have stopped me from looking for the best possible care I could obtain at the best possible cost.


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Well I will be using my Medicare for the first time tommorrow. I got a book. But I have to southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #1
Some, sort of, answers underpants Jan 2013 #2
Medicare Part B spartan61 Jan 2013 #3
my husband is also on medicare. ReformedGOPer Jan 2013 #31
Whew boy, are you in for a shock! Glitterati Jan 2013 #4
That is good advice, thanks democrattotheend Jan 2013 #5
Our first hand experience Glitterati Jan 2013 #11
Wow, I am so sorry democrattotheend Jan 2013 #16
Oh, they do. Glitterati Jan 2013 #18
BTW, here's annother FYI for you Glitterati Jan 2013 #33
Not necessarily stopwastingmymoney Jan 2013 #53
At what age, though? Glitterati Jan 2013 #58
51 now stopwastingmymoney Jan 2013 #64
doctors accepting Medicare fees yellowdogintexas Jan 2013 #51
Well, actually you just need to make sure the doctor accepts Medicare. If he/she does then you are Democrat 4 Ever Jan 2013 #34
Not this Doctor Glitterati Jan 2013 #36
There's a difference between accepting Medicare and accepting assignment. Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #67
I see...however, Glitterati Jan 2013 #69
Yeah, I get it. Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #70
You have to get a doctor/hospital that accepts assignment Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #66
My experience Old Codger Jan 2013 #6
I have Kaiser REP Jan 2013 #7
I'm thinking about Kaiser. silverweb Jan 2013 #60
I've been very happy with it REP Jan 2013 #61
Thank you! silverweb Jan 2013 #62
Your co-payment for each medicare service covered is 20% MindandSoul Jan 2013 #8
Interesting. I am actually proposing the opposite in my paper democrattotheend Jan 2013 #15
Can you document your statement that diaper companies are virgogal Jan 2013 #45
Sure, here's my source democrattotheend Jan 2013 #46
Thank you very much---I'll read it tomorrow--getting late here in the East. virgogal Jan 2013 #47
MandS, this is pure Single Payer system that I was protesting for back in 2009. ancianita Jan 2013 #68
wow dhol82 Jan 2013 #9
I had an endocrinologist refuse to treat me as a Medicare patient and virgogal Jan 2013 #10
Most doctors in Georgia refuse Medicare and Medicaid patients Glitterati Jan 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jan 2013 #30
My refusal was at a teaching hospital in MA. All of my friends are virgogal Jan 2013 #44
I'm guessing Glitterati Jan 2013 #50
Terrific guess---I'm in MA. virgogal Jan 2013 #65
Get a supplement. Yes, the 20% is hanging out there. TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #13
IF you can afford it. Glitterati Jan 2013 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jan 2013 #17
Already there. Glitterati Jan 2013 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Jan 2013 #26
Medicare didn't deny the tests. Glitterati Jan 2013 #27
It's been a good deal for my grandpa democrattotheend Jan 2013 #23
That's because the Medicare premiums are heavily subsidized democrattotheend Jan 2013 #19
Regardless Glitterati Jan 2013 #21
Not necessarily democrattotheend Jan 2013 #24
Those are the facts Glitterati Jan 2013 #25
I meant not necessarily as in those with limited incomes should not necessarily buy them democrattotheend Jan 2013 #28
I think what you are missing is this Glitterati Jan 2013 #29
I understand that democrattotheend Jan 2013 #32
Trust me, no ONE is detached from the cost of their care Glitterati Jan 2013 #35
Those with Medicare and supplemental are detached democrattotheend Jan 2013 #38
That's simply not fair Glitterati Jan 2013 #39
I am trying to propose ways to lower costs for everyone democrattotheend Jan 2013 #41
Your assumption is simply WRONG, though Glitterati Jan 2013 #42
Here's an example of what I am talking about democrattotheend Jan 2013 #43
You're STILL blaming the wrong party Glitterati Jan 2013 #48
Here's what is needed Glitterati Jan 2013 #49
Don't like that. Downwinder Jan 2013 #56
My husband's pension withholds $300 from his monthly check Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #40
I have Medicare A and B plus a supplemental policy and Part D Downwinder Jan 2013 #22
When I had cataract/cornea surgery last year, Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #37
I don't know if this has been said here bkkyosemite Jan 2013 #52
My 82 year old mother has a medicare advantage plan...... mrmpa Jan 2013 #57
i just got medicare 6/12 when my husband DesertFlower Jan 2013 #54
The supplemental is really not a supplemental bkkyosemite Jan 2013 #71
yes. it is. DesertFlower Jan 2013 #73
Oh My, They sure do make it all so easy. It's all bull if you ask me. Single Payer Now !! YOHABLO Jan 2013 #55
HR 676 Single Payer Now Agreed! bkkyosemite Jan 2013 #72
Medicare is a blessing for us Thirties Child Jan 2013 #59
info on supplemental insurance 2pooped2pop Jan 2013 #63
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