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dmallind

(10,437 posts)
78. Really? More false equivalency?
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 12:45 PM
Jan 2013

Two kids are shot to death every week - NOT counting accidents. The number of stories about, say, Gregory Erdmann (white) and Ta'Keith Russell (black) are very similar and very low. They only even raise to the level they do because there was something unusual about them - the execution style family hit and the stepfather involvement respectively. Most shot kids of any race are unlikely to get beyond small town newspaper articles or page C7 snippets in big cities because there is nothing unusual about them - unlike say a mother (allegedly) killing her own kid - not by shooting - and then trying to elaborately fake a cover story including news publicity. If the Anthony case made the news because a white kid died, why don't we hear about the dozens of other white kids who get murdered on non-stop all-channel sturation? Because unlike that case there is nothing new or unusual to hook hoi polloi's attention. Kids black and white are shot to death with dreadful monotony, and few indeed make the news beyond a brief article precisely because they are so common. To make a big media splash it takes something out of the ordinary....like 20 kids being killed at once. And yet you bring up a case with a black victim that WAS media saturated to pretend media attention is all because of race? Make your mind up! Why did Martin make the news at all? Because it was something different...not just another teen getting shot but getting shot by a vigilante wannabe. Hell we have some idiots saying the massacre was a false flag plot - Martin didn't get that! Of course racism exists - but that's bugger all to do with which murders of kids get media attention.

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I thought the exact same thing. nt Deep13 Jan 2013 #1
The question is why since malaise Jan 2013 #19
Tradition. Deep13 Jan 2013 #50
Little Ana was slaughtered and there was a little Asian girl as well malaise Jan 2013 #56
Dr West: If this is what it takes for real change to happen, please just stfu Hekate Jan 2013 #2
And I hope he realizes we would be equally outraged TexasBushwhacker Jan 2013 #5
I think he is saying that we have not been just as outraged. merrily Jan 2013 #7
That's because the shooting of one person at a time doesn't have the same impact as 26. n/t pnwmom Jan 2013 #29
Perhaps, but 26 instances of one person shooting to death one other person does Major Nikon Jan 2013 #67
After watching the contortions DU'ers went through to attack Trayvon Martin? Scootaloo Jan 2013 #9
I disagree. cali Jan 2013 #11
Correct. kentauros Jan 2013 #24
+1 and Co-sign Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #32
Amen ReRe Jan 2013 #6
Around the bend is correct. FSogol Jan 2013 #23
West and Limbaugh! elleng Jan 2013 #3
Limbaugh is trying to distract focus; West is trying to attract attention Scootaloo Jan 2013 #10
Not much love for Dr West here on DU and it has been going on for a while now stultusporcos Jan 2013 #12
+1 You need to post more. Scuba Jan 2013 #16
Perhaps not much love or room on DU for truth and reality some days either stultusporcos Jan 2013 #45
On the other hand, Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #73
All too true... haikugal Jan 2013 #28
One only has to think of the missing blond girl of the month to know there is plenty of truth TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #72
You are not trying to make any kind of comparison between West and Limbuagh sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #44
I took it more to be a comparison on that one salient point Major Nikon Jan 2013 #64
Yes, I definitely agree with you on the fact that the media doesn't bother to cover sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #71
Obama has remarked on this too, even in relation to Sandy Hook. freshwest Jan 2013 #4
I don't know about his particular point, but I do know that people merrily Jan 2013 #8
I got into it with a local activist recently about this... Earth_First Jan 2013 #13
That is a horrible statement. zellie Jan 2013 #14
The nation would have been just as shocked if 20 young children had been gunned down bluestate10 Jan 2013 #61
Some Legitimate Points, Dr. West. Now Shut The Fuck Up. (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #15
This was the subject of an early West Wing episode in 1999. ananda Jan 2013 #17
I don't think what he's saying is so outrageous gollygee Jan 2013 #18
Yes - it is leftynyc Jan 2013 #20
I don't see the two as being equivalent gollygee Jan 2013 #21
All I can tell you is how it looked to me leftynyc Jan 2013 #26
The purpose of identifying privilege is not to allow those without it a free pass Major Nikon Jan 2013 #74
Page 6? Bjornsdotter Jan 2013 #48
OK you so obviously didn't read it gollygee Jan 2013 #49
Not arguing the crime rate Bjornsdotter Jan 2013 #53
It wasn't anything by him gollygee Jan 2013 #54
You'd think a PhD would be bright enough to count dmallind Jan 2013 #22
Really? Casey Anthony? any of those other white kid of the month abductions/slayings? Sirveri Jan 2013 #77
Really? More false equivalency? dmallind Jan 2013 #78
If Dr. West lay aside his racist bullshit... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #25
Jeff, I agree the *per day* is the important point Hekate Jan 2013 #40
In Chicago, where they just had 500 homicides last year Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #41
I usually roll my eyes at Dr. West but... Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #27
I feel the same way Major Nikon Jan 2013 #75
Anytime you use language like that, expect your audience to tune you out. Hosnon Jan 2013 #30
Cornell West is a racist. He should join the teabaggers still_one Jan 2013 #31
Completely misreading the intent here CakeGrrl Jan 2013 #46
I am not just basing it on this, though his "vanilla" comment a disparaging racial remark, and it is still_one Jan 2013 #55
No...he said you guys don't pay attention unless it's "the vanilla side" of town. Pretty racist. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #70
so he does`t care about "vanilla" kids? madrchsod Jan 2013 #33
he didn't say that at all bigtree Jan 2013 #35
That's not what he said. He actually said the following.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #52
good points made -- not digging the rhetoric, tho bigtree Jan 2013 #34
P-Funk: "God bless Chocolate City and its vanilla suburbs" 1975 n/t deutsey Jan 2013 #37
I have the Parliament album, somewhere bigtree Jan 2013 #38
That's a cheap shot tularetom Jan 2013 #36
Adam Lanza did not give a shit about the color of his victims, or the racial make-up of those kids riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #39
The point is that the media and lawmakers apparently DO discern by color CakeGrrl Jan 2013 #47
Birmingham Sunday. Those girls were black. I remember.... Hekate Jan 2013 #42
He is the chocolate antithesis of Ann Coulter. There, I said it. Say anything outrageous. nt mfcorey1 Jan 2013 #43
West has a point. Further, one reason guns are so entrenched is that bigoted right wingers Hoyt Jan 2013 #51
Use any gun death obama2016202428 Jan 2013 #57
I understand his point but using the terms he did to describe this doesn't help his cause. Arcanetrance Jan 2013 #58
This I agree with Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #65
Innocent Babes vs. Gang Warfare? cbrer Jan 2013 #59
At least on of the kids that died was African American. nt bluestate10 Jan 2013 #60
Sorry I cannot go there Trailrider1951 Jan 2013 #62
This debate should be about gun control... not race. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #63
It should be about both Major Nikon Jan 2013 #68
It's like Sandy and Katrina. Americans say Katrina was NOTHING compared to Sandy. RB TexLa Jan 2013 #66
That's helpful. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #69
One the one hand... DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #76
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