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In reply to the discussion: Obama Taps Anti-Gay Preacher for Inaugural Benediction (with Shocking Quotes) [View all]Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)173. "of all religions?"
Certainly not mine (Unitarianism), and certainly not Buddhism, just to name 2.
http://www.religionfacts.com/homosexuality/buddhism.htm
Lay Buddhists (those who live outside the monastery) are expected to adhere to Five Precepts, the third of which is a vow "not to engage in sexual misconduct." But what is sexual misconduct? Right and wrong behavior in Buddhism is generally determined by considerations such as the following:
Universalibility principle - "How would I like it if someone did this to me?"
Consequences - Does the act causes harm and regret (in oneself or others) or benefit and joy?
Utilitarian principle - Will the act help or harm the attainment of goals (ultimately spiritual liberation)?
Intention - Is the act motivated by love, generosity and understanding?
"Sexual misconduct" has thus traditionally been interpreted to include actions like coercive sex, sexual harassment, child molestation and adultery. As Homosexuality is not explicitly mentioned in any of the Buddha's sayings recorded in the Pali Canon (Tripitaka), most interpreters have taken this to mean that homosexuality should be evaluated in the same way as heterosexuality, in accordance with the above principles.
A Buddhist author of an article on homosexuality concludes:
In the case of the lay man and woman where there is mutual consent, where adultery is not involved and where the sexual act is an expression of love, respect, loyalty and warmth, it would not be breaking the third Precept. And it is the same when the two people are of the same gender. Likewise promiscuity, license and the disregard for the feelings of others would make a sexual act unskillful whether it be heterosexual or homosexual. All the principles we would use to evaluate a heterosexual relationship we would also use to evaluate a homosexual one. In Buddhism we could say that it is not the object of one's sexual desire that determines whether a sexual act is unskillful or not, but rather the quality of the emotions and intentions involved. [1]
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Obama Taps Anti-Gay Preacher for Inaugural Benediction (with Shocking Quotes) [View all]
Jackpine Radical
Jan 2013
OP
Well, folks, I promise when you elect ME President, there wont be any "benediction" at all.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2013
#1
As long as the president supports gay marriage, I don't care. Not everyone has the same views.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2013
#3
No, the POINT is that he still apparently thinks "both sides" should have "equal time",
Occulus
Jan 2013
#49
It'd be like LBJ having a sky-pilot from Bob Jones U. do the invocation at the 1965 inaugural.
Ken Burch
Jan 2013
#115
The pastor is no longer in the program. The president has made vocal statements in support of
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2013
#170
O.K., here's how I will explain that, and this is my last word on the subject...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2013
#191
It's not cool, for sure. But there's a difference between racist and anti-gay statements....
Honeycombe8
Jan 2013
#90
No, I'm speaking factually. As a matter of fact, most religions follow their religious books...
Honeycombe8
Jan 2013
#97
I'm not saying that I myself think that. A person's faith is not a fairy tale.
Honeycombe8
Jan 2013
#104
But not any more, right? I'm not talking about forever through history in the past. We're speaking
Honeycombe8
Jan 2013
#116
Of course the same books say it is a sin and capital offense for a women to question a man.
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2013
#142
The Bible and other books are used to rationalize all forms of bigotry. The 'Curse of Cain' has oft
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2013
#152
Yes, but I'm tired of people comparing race to sexual orientation. Two different things.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2013
#161
Would you have any problem if the President chose someone who was anti-African American?
sabrina 1
Jan 2013
#123
What! I thought this was a joke...but, then realized it was serious from the quote.
KoKo
Jan 2013
#4
We did speak up, and that's why Obama "evolved" on the issue of equal marriage.
yardwork
Jan 2013
#75
Obama 'evolved' because he was told major donors were going to tell him to fuck off at Clooney's
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2013
#143
Maybe they figured they'd appeal to the Mean Nasty Right in one fell swoop with this guy.
MADem
Jan 2013
#127
People should ask themselves why Homer had Odysseus, when given a choice between doing
patrice
Jan 2013
#46
Sad...it will go over heads of many who have little time or other agendas..but yeah
KoKo
Jan 2013
#50
The Greeks were our intellectual ancestors. Aristotle who wrote a book about Logic
patrice
Jan 2013
#107
He and his Church are Baptist. Largest denomiation in mainstream American religion. Sorry.
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2013
#146
++1 Eyes on the prize = the end of DOMA & the party OUGHT to trot Bill Clinton out for that one. nt
patrice
Jan 2013
#32
Afterall, it's NO secret where PO's base is on all of this. This keeps us IN the news-cycle . . .
patrice
Jan 2013
#45
Yeah--I'm guessing the gay youth of this nation will take away the poetry of Richard Blanco, and
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#37
As well might those of their number who had such aspirations and didn't make it, a fact that I can
patrice
Jan 2013
#63
Your concern is noted. Please feel free to share more of your concerns, and enjoy your stay. nt
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#138
"So when you ask an asshole like that to give the benediction, what are you doing?"
Starry Messenger
Jan 2013
#92
wtf? *why*? at least in rick warren's case, he was well-known & had a best-selling book, so you
HiPointDem
Jan 2013
#15
The President's Golf Game Must Be Improving... Because THIS... Is Par For The Course...
WillyT
Jan 2013
#22
And? This is like inviting Wayne LaPierre to speak at a mass shooting memorial
Demo_Chris
Jan 2013
#54
But Jesus called the 'Christ' said never swear any form of oath, said never ever pray in public
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2013
#148
But I just read somewhere that Metger Ever's wife is doing the prayer...first woman n/t
Turn CO Blue
Jan 2013
#41
Really does not make sense. Why not choose David duke. Really do not understand the wisdom of this
still_one
Jan 2013
#53
Cabinet positions outsourced to Wall Street Banks who are corporate people?
MannyGoldstein
Jan 2013
#67
How COULD he?! I didn't think it was possible to get one worse than Rick Warren!
MotherPetrie
Jan 2013
#77
I'm sick of bigots like this getting validation of their hate filled rhetoric
Major Nikon
Jan 2013
#89
Deja vu all over again. Once again 'our' President delivers a big Fuck You to the rest of us. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2013
#94
Hey everybody... Louies coming to the inauguration. And he's gonna dip his balls in stuff....
Erose999
Jan 2013
#140
His second term hasn't even started and the outrage list is already getting long
Demo_Chris
Jan 2013
#128
On behalf of everyone who has been traumatized and damaged by "Ex-Gay" therapy and fucking religious
Erose999
Jan 2013
#139
Will those of you trashing the president now apologize? The pastor has been removed from the program
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2013
#162
Like hell I will. Your president should be the one apologising to LGBTQ community.
idwiyo
Jan 2013
#171
For twice picking bigots with extreme views regarding our citizens for the Inauguration
Marrah_G
Jan 2013
#184
Look, here's how I feel about this: There have been Democrats who have made bigoted comments
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2013
#190
Sorry you feel that way but I'm standing my what I believe. You call it bigotry. Fine. That's on you
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2013
#197
Maybe, just maybe the president believes that by having Warren up there, sitting alongside
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2013
#192