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meaculpa2011

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81. He's so certain because he knows everything.

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:48 PM

Jan 2013

Even what happened to me, my family and my neighbor (NYPD, now retired) in Woodhaven, Queens more than 20 years ago. I would dig up the police report if I thought it would do any good, but I'm certain that a person of such clearly superior intellect would see right through it.

For the record, I do not own a handgun. Never have, never will. I do have several shotguns that I use for duck hunting. They're unloaded and locked away. I was simply responding to the comment about security systems protecting your home when it is unoccupied. And I genuinely DO NOT care about a break-in when no one is home.

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So what's wrong with home security systems? [View all] Nine Jan 2013 OP

I don't have either, just have a nice loud dog. hollysmom Jan 2013 #1

you don't even need a dog Whisp Jan 2013 #40

Ha Ha - Pfffft! hollysmom Jan 2013 #46

Or buy one of these beauties!!!! MADem Jan 2013 #80

yep. If you can't have a dog for whatever reason Whisp Jan 2013 #84

I hope that your dog knows how to dial 911 Orrex Jan 2013 #48

Aww, thank you for worrying about the 15 year old puppy. hollysmom Jan 2013 #53

Well, everyone who lives two doors from the emergency squad is off the hook. Orrex Jan 2013 #55

Hey, you choose where you live, I chose here. hollysmom Jan 2013 #57

Check with your insurance company Orrex Jan 2013 #66

Dogs are easy to kill - it is not a foolproof solution. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #69

I doubt the average burglar is going to spend Dash87 Jan 2013 #71

Depends how isolated your house is and how rational the criminal is hack89 Jan 2013 #74

True, but how often would those houses ever Dash87 Jan 2013 #77

There are enough stories of home owners using guns to defend themselves hack89 Jan 2013 #79

There are almost as many tales of successful home defense as accidental gun-related homicides Orrex Jan 2013 #117

Do you have a cite for that? hack89 Jan 2013 #119

Sorry--I seem to have conflated two different datapoints Orrex Jan 2013 #120

The Kellerman study is somewhat controversial hack89 Jan 2013 #121

So do I. RebelOne Jan 2013 #75

Sweet. hollysmom Jan 2013 #129

Saw a PBS documentary on the evolution of dogs from wolves a while back... markpkessinger Jan 2013 #139

If it takes the cops 15 minutes to get to your house, a home security system isn't going to get them Brickbat Jan 2013 #2

Oh noes! 99Forever Jan 2013 #6

That was not a mature helpful post. nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #127

Ut oh... 99Forever Jan 2013 #142

:) nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #149

And we all know the remote counryside pscot Jan 2013 #11

And we all know there are armed ruffians roaming about attacking schools The Straight Story Jan 2013 #16

And a gun would have saved him but not a security system and good locks? (nt) Nine Jan 2013 #19

That must have made the news pscot Jan 2013 #20

It's an "NRA Fact" bongbong Jan 2013 #21

Exactly, you'd think a story like that would be in the news... hughee99 Jan 2013 #34

Wow! bongbong Jan 2013 #36

Please see down below (nt) The Straight Story Jan 2013 #78

Oh yeah! bongbong Jan 2013 #92

Let's analyze those. Nine Jan 2013 #42

Do you know how the gun got in his recliner? hughee99 Jan 2013 #64

Because most robbers are going to go for "easy pickings" Nine Jan 2013 #70

Houses in the middle of nowhere could be considered "easy pickings". hughee99 Jan 2013 #82

My father in-law keeps a gun in his recliner spinbaby Jan 2013 #152

He provided links to prove it. Guess *he's* not the one that's full of shit... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #136

Gladly The Straight Story Jan 2013 #72

Look, I don't deny it happens pscot Jan 2013 #86

Here the thing The Straight Story Jan 2013 #102

Well, that's where we fall out pscot Jan 2013 #106

Um, SOME are calling for a ban on guns The Straight Story Jan 2013 #126

All that is, is just an abstract of the study. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #134

There are none so blind pscot Jan 2013 #145

And you refuse to see. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #147

More gun deaths in the U.S last year than the total pscot Jan 2013 #150

You refuse to separate the criminals from the law-abiding. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #153

I almost posted to defend your honor. juajen Jan 2013 #99

What??? onpatrol98 Jan 2013 #137

Why would you say that? Brickbat Jan 2013 #17

You're determined. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #12

To do what? Brickbat Jan 2013 #18

Talking sense to "Gun Collectors" again? Walk away Jan 2013 #3

Voting for Republicans, again. regjoe Jan 2013 #33

If guns are the most important thing in the world to these people who will vote GOP AndyA Jan 2013 #39

Alot of Dems understand their 2nd Amendment right and wish to keep it regjoe Jan 2013 #54

Right. They are now republicans. (If they ever did vote for Democrats) nt Walk away Jan 2013 #58

But of course they are regjoe Jan 2013 #62

I think you will find yourself in the minority among democrats if you are against the 2nd. Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #103

More NRA talking points. AndyA Jan 2013 #68

Of course regjoe Jan 2013 #87

You just keep on believing that. AndyA Jan 2013 #94

As I am surrounded by fellow Dems who are armed, I will regjoe Jan 2013 #98

And you go ahead and keep putting thoughts in my posts that aren't there. AndyA Jan 2013 #100

The fear is very irrational regjoe Jan 2013 #144

I know all I need to know about guns. AndyA Jan 2013 #146

I also have experienced deaths by gun regjoe Jan 2013 #151

???? bongbong Jan 2013 #90

Your opinion of what you think the 2nd Amendment means is pointless regjoe Jan 2013 #96

Let me know when you get your pizza bongbong Jan 2013 #155

We have one on both properties...and night sensor flood lights... Tikki Jan 2013 #4

We have an ADT security system and guns ...by request of my wife ...who keeps track ... L0oniX Jan 2013 #5

But, but billh58 Jan 2013 #7

Nothing that isn't fixed by the addition of claymore mines to the lot's boundaries HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #8

a dog is also a cheap way quinnox Jan 2013 #9

Problem: Fires happen jeff47 Jan 2013 #49

That's your first layer, the firearm is your last layer of defense. ileus Jan 2013 #10

It must be tough living in Somalia! nt Walk away Jan 2013 #29

More neighborhood defense is also needed. FarCenter Jan 2013 #13

They are utterly worthless in rural areas 1-Old-Man Jan 2013 #14

Yappy barking dogs, home security system, lighting, video surveillance rustydog Jan 2013 #15

If we're going to allow self defense as an excuse to own weapons. geomon666 Jan 2013 #22

Your going Berserker Jan 2013 #25

Thanks, I'm a wonderful guy. geomon666 Jan 2013 #28

Not so far fetched sarisataka Jan 2013 #52

Link? bongbong Jan 2013 #93

Sorry sarisataka Jan 2013 #118

Eureka sarisataka Jan 2013 #124

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #154

I'm pretty sure you already have that right, but do you have the technology? hughee99 Jan 2013 #35

Actually, you don't have that right jeff47 Jan 2013 #50

Some people would pay to visit your house! Walk away Jan 2013 #59

Another point about home security systems. Arkansas Granny Jan 2013 #23

Wait...WHAT Berserker Jan 2013 #26

What a clever way you have of ignoring the obvious point that I was making. Arkansas Granny Jan 2013 #38

When we're not home I don't care... meaculpa2011 Jan 2013 #31

That's an unbelievable anecdote. Really. (nt) Nine Jan 2013 #32

Are you calling the poster a liar? Then do so. Common Sense Party Jan 2013 #60

He's not calling the poster a liar; he's saying that the anecdote is unbelievable Orrex Jan 2013 #65

What aspects of the tale--as told--exceed credibility? Common Sense Party Jan 2013 #67

let's see... Nine Jan 2013 #73

So, do you think the poster is lying? Common Sense Party Jan 2013 #91

Do you think that he thinks that the poster is lying? Orrex Jan 2013 #105

So you are calling the poster a liar, I guess. Common Sense Party Jan 2013 #109

No, I'm saying that the tale as told is unbelievable Orrex Jan 2013 #112

Just about all of it. Why? Orrex Jan 2013 #76

He's so certain because he knows everything. meaculpa2011 Jan 2013 #81

I never claimed to know everything, but I can spot a fishy-sounding story a mile away Orrex Jan 2013 #104

Why would the phrase "he identified himself as a cop" make you think he was Common Sense Party Jan 2013 #110

Nope. You're failing to read what's written. Orrex Jan 2013 #115

He identified himself as a cop means... meaculpa2011 Jan 2013 #114

For a guy who allegedly survived a home invasion, you're pretty fragile Orrex Jan 2013 #116

Warning flags for a... meaculpa2011 Jan 2013 #122

Well, I don't believe you or your wife or your either of your darling children Orrex Jan 2013 #123

My darling children are now adults... meaculpa2011 Jan 2013 #125

Do your adult darling children know that you're such a hot-head? Orrex Jan 2013 #130

Mea...you got pulled into a wacky exchange... onpatrol98 Jan 2013 #140

Agreed. NT meaculpa2011 Jan 2013 #141

I sensed it too! That story was unbelievable from the outset! Orrex Jan 2013 #143

That is one damned agile burglar, was it one of those portable televisions he was watching? CBGLuthier Jan 2013 #83

Maybe he wanted to see himself on tv Orrex Jan 2013 #108

Nice story! bongbong Jan 2013 #95

I believe your story. onpatrol98 Jan 2013 #138

There are actually other reasons to have a gun bongbong Jan 2013 #24

n/s JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #51

If the Petit family had one they might still be alive. Jennicut Jan 2013 #27

Did the Petits have a home security system and a good lock? Nine Jan 2013 #37

Home invasions are still very rare. Jennicut Jan 2013 #44

didn't the killers follow the mother and daughters home JI7 Jan 2013 #97

Yes. They saw them at the local Stop and Shop. Jennicut Jan 2013 #111

The more home security systems there are, the more often they will malfunction. randome Jan 2013 #30

But guns never malfunction, right? Squinch Jan 2013 #89

Guns malfunction all the time. randome Jan 2013 #113

I worked for an alarm company that handled both home & commercial security Lurks Often Jan 2013 #41

Nothing, per-say... -..__... Jan 2013 #43

They're expensive to buy, more expensive to keep, and they don't work. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #45

You're exactly right except on three of those points Orrex Jan 2013 #47

What, do you sell them? Out here where I live, not one thing you said is true. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #128

Do a little market research. Orrex Jan 2013 #131

In typical DU fashion, you've completely missed your mark. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #132

In similarly typical fashion, you've completely missed the point Orrex Jan 2013 #135

I'm rather fond of poisonous gas myself, "kill'm like cockroaches!" I'd say, but that's illegal. hunter Jan 2013 #56

Anything that becomes a substitute for economic & social justice puts you at MORE risk, not less. nt patrice Jan 2013 #61

Nothing...another layer of security. Very beneficial when one is away. TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #63

STOP THINKING! Atman Jan 2013 #85

They're good. I worked in a central station for 17 years. Roselma Jan 2013 #88

Sigh...... Turbineguy Jan 2013 #101

But...you know it's soo FREAKIN' simple it TOO simple.... NO ONE NEEDS onecent Jan 2013 #107

If you are James Bond Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2013 #133

Yes, most of the people i know who have a firearm for defense also have locks, lights, alarms. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #148