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MindandSoul

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64. Exactly!

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:17 PM

Jan 2013

I also support much stronger gun control, but do not want to take ALL guns away.

I also do not like the "interpretation" of the second amendment that leads the gun fanatics to believe they have every right to own any guns (and as many) as they want, and that this will just evolve to include ANY form of even deadlier firearms in the future.

Even the way the poll was worded is not quite conductive to fair answers.

For example, it doesn't quote the WHOLE second amendment, "forgetting" to include the QUALIFYING part of the wording which stats:

"A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Where is the "well regulated militia" part in that rush for any individual to own any type and any number of guns. . .to do with it as they please?

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2nd Amendment Poll [View all] darkangel218 Jan 2013 OP

I support gun control and the 2nd amendment Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #1

Same here. n/t AndyA Jan 2013 #3

+26 (n/t) klook Jan 2013 #5

Gun control is being discussed plenty. darkangel218 Jan 2013 #6

What do you mean "the right to bear arms"? MNBrewer Jan 2013 #25

None of the Men at the Continental Congress thought orpupilofnature57 Jan 2013 #158

Agreed redstatebluegirl Jan 2013 #7

also police officers and the like Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #9

Plus the number of people helped by an off duty police office is very high. redstatebluegirl Jan 2013 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #8

Count me in on your point. Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #20

Definitely should have been an option. Hoyt Jan 2013 #36

I agree mokawanis Jan 2013 #37

I'm right with you. N/T Ed Suspicious Jan 2013 #57

Exactly! MindandSoul Jan 2013 #64

I voted Pass for that very reason. Jamastiene Feb 2013 #167

I support well regulated militias that are necessary for the security of a free state Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #2

I agree...I support the founders' intent, but now it's a relic joeybee12 Jan 2013 #4

No, Of Enlightenment Times.. ReReadConstitution Jan 2013 #118

So what limits do YOU agree to " right to bear arms".... pkdu Jan 2013 #132

You know of the Third Ammendment? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #134

Wow, such stupidty with only 2 posts... joeybee12 Jan 2013 #155

yes samsingh Jan 2013 #147

Exactly! n/t FourScore Jan 2013 #93

which 2A, the one before 2008 or the current one? Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #10

The current one. nt darkangel218 Jan 2013 #11

I'm in favor of private ownership of firearms, with limitations. Where's that put me? Scuba Jan 2013 #12

I don't really see anyone arguing that bossy22 Jan 2013 #14

Then you didn't see the interview with the guy sponsoring the 'gun appreciation day'. Scuba Jan 2013 #16

to be honest I did not. bossy22 Jan 2013 #17

Here's the link ... Scuba Jan 2013 #18

in the smart category samsingh Jan 2013 #22

I don't think so hack89 Jan 2013 #23

I support the 2nd Amendment but I feel the doc03 Jan 2013 #13

i support all of the bill of rights as well as reasonable restrictions on them arely staircase Jan 2013 #15

Which 2nd Amend? 99Forever Jan 2013 #19

the question is not honest the way it is phrased samsingh Jan 2013 #21

You got it. GoneOffShore Jan 2013 #24

+100 Myrina Jan 2013 #32

thanks samsingh Jan 2013 #148

I totally agree! Even the wording of this question avoids the REAL issue! MindandSoul Jan 2013 #67

it's one of the many plows the nra teaches samsingh Jan 2013 #149

Needs to be rewritten to... -..__... Jan 2013 #26

I will correct it to that. Thats is what i meant. Thanks. darkangel218 Jan 2013 #27

good luck getting that through. people are much smarter now samsingh Jan 2013 #146

Thus far majority has spoken :D darkangel218 Jan 2013 #28

That's not the Second Amendment. Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2013 #29

You forgot the whole well regulated militia part Chisox08 Jan 2013 #30

They always do. baldguy Jan 2013 #42

It's childish and stupid veganlush Jan 2013 #33

Keep dreaming! nt darkangel218 Jan 2013 #34

Hopefully we'll wake up from the nightmare Zoeisright Jan 2013 #71

Good ridance. nt darkangel218 Jan 2013 #79

Now... there's a fresh perspective! -..__... Jan 2013 #38

Interesting results.. Upton Jan 2013 #35

Maybe if the Delicate Flower were to post ... 99Forever Jan 2013 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #45

Revolutions are won by ideas, not guns. hunter Jan 2013 #56

Pssst...you don't have firearms to start a revolution now either. In jmg257 Jan 2013 #58

I didnt say start a revolution here. I was only telling what i went through. darkangel218 Jan 2013 #59

Spinning?? "they didn't have firearms to start a revolution...". Again, neither do you. jmg257 Jan 2013 #61

Whatever we have, its better than nothing, in the case of a dictator taking over. darkangel218 Jan 2013 #63

Which dictator will that be? Anybody special we need to train our sites on? jmg257 Jan 2013 #76

Do you think East Europe ever dreamed of what happened to them? darkangel218 Jan 2013 #78

Let's get the guns under control, and we can keep all the rights we want! jmg257 Jan 2013 #84

Like i said, im all for sensible gun control. nt darkangel218 Jan 2013 #86

Cheers! nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #87

Oh please. 99Forever Jan 2013 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #81

Paid NRA "gun trolls" are skewing the results. -..__... Jan 2013 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #39

You Can Support The 2nd Amendment, But Hate How Fat Tony Scalia Has Interpreted It... (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #43

I am opposed to the current interpretation of the 2nd amendment etherealtruth Jan 2013 #44

Thank you! This is also my stand on this issue. MindandSoul Jan 2013 #68

"A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a Free State" Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #47

The 2nd Amendment? bongbong Jan 2013 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #49

+1 Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #111

Y'all Postin In A Thread!! RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #50

Go away. darkangel218 Jan 2013 #51

Can't take it, huh? Zoeisright Jan 2013 #73

You just said youll ignore me. darkangel218 Jan 2013 #83

Wow...u post all this crap about gun rights, but said this??? SCAM ALERT! jmg257 Jan 2013 #121

Huh. PETRUS Jan 2013 #165

I support the 2nd Amendment and oppose the NRA . orpupilofnature57 Jan 2013 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #53

Qualified support here, so I chose not to answer your poll. patrice Jan 2013 #54

Forgot a bit there, but certainly I support securing well regulated Militias. jmg257 Jan 2013 #55

GOOD ANSWER!!!! n/t FourScore Jan 2013 #92

Wow, interesting results. Thanks for posting this. Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #60

I support all of our rights as listed in the Bill of Rights, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and the rest as well 1-Old-Man Jan 2013 #62

Since there's so much debate over the OP, let me try something... derby378 Jan 2013 #65

I support the 2nd amendment in the context of People having the means/rights to OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #66

your poll questions are bogus bowens43 Jan 2013 #69

I hope youre never in the position to need it. darkangel218 Jan 2013 #72

That is an incorrect statement. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #70

Everyone knows the second amedment. darkangel218 Jan 2013 #75

Do you know the Fourth Amendment? RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #80

Yes and the "Patriot Act " vaporized it .Thanks again Shrub. orpupilofnature57 Jan 2013 #156

Yep just pointing out that the OP is an obvious troll RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #163

Good eye !!! orpupilofnature57 Jan 2013 #164

Only 30000 jmg257 Jan 2013 #77

I am shocked by these results. Guess noise doesn't equal numbers. nt Skip Intro Jan 2013 #82

Nope, noise indeed doesnt equal numbers. darkangel218 Jan 2013 #85

I support the 2nd Amendment as I think the Founders intended it, elleng Jan 2013 #88

Me, too. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #115

This is a totally ambiguous and illogical question as stated. defacto7 Jan 2013 #89

This is a horseshit thread even by gungeon standards. Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2013 #90

since you cherry-picked the portion of the 2nd Amendment FourScore Jan 2013 #91

No, it isnt cherry picked. I could say the same about the anti gun mob darkangel218 Jan 2013 #94

You might want to do some research on the 2nd Amendment. FourScore Jan 2013 #98

right iiibbb Jan 2013 #127

I voted 'pass' TheProgressive Jan 2013 #95

I.assumed everyone knows it. darkangel218 Jan 2013 #96

If that is what the founders wanted, why didn't they write it that way? pipoman Jan 2013 #113

As usual, the Founders used the correct phraseology... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #117

Seems this horse has already left the gate pipoman Jan 2013 #125

The President said that too? Really? Show me the link please....! TheProgressive Jan 2013 #128

.. pipoman Jan 2013 #131

Two things TheProgressive Jan 2013 #135

Yes, it is an accurate quote pipoman Jan 2013 #136

But please remember... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #137

And I simply have never seen any pipoman Jan 2013 #138

You can *think* what you want however TheProgressive Jan 2013 #139

What I think pipoman Jan 2013 #141

It must be difficult for you... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #142

I started one such thread a few weeks ago.. pipoman Jan 2013 #152

"The right of the people" part is where I take it to mean personal rights to own Ter Jan 2013 #144

Then, why did they put in the 'militia' part at all? TheProgressive Jan 2013 #145

I'd bet a lot of $ all of the "in favors" have been a member of POF as of today nt Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2013 #97

What's POF? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #100

I support the 2nd amendment, but the gun freaks have it all wrong. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #99

I support the 2nd Amendment NeedleCast Jan 2013 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #102

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jan 2013 #103

Is this a well-regulated melitia? DainBramaged Jan 2013 #104

You already votted against. nt darkangel218 Jan 2013 #105

SO what's your point? U mad Bro?? DainBramaged Jan 2013 #106

Haha! How funny darkangel218 Jan 2013 #107

SO you still mad bro? DainBramaged Jan 2013 #108

I dont care what your opinion is. You asked questions after already votting. darkangel218 Jan 2013 #109

I made a point bro DainBramaged Jan 2013 #110

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #112

BUT? RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #114

Locked out of their own push poll thread. ROTFLMAO nt Electric Monk Jan 2013 #119

Question? TheProgressive Jan 2013 #126

Yes, when you have a post hidden you are no longer able to post in that thread Electric Monk Jan 2013 #129

Oh, wow! thank you for this info... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #130

ALL of the Constitution still is the Law. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #154

You are too funny. Kalidurga Jan 2013 #116

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #120

Are you serious???? Kalidurga Jan 2013 #122

Your guns are pea shooters against the US Military. How are they going to protect you Lex Jan 2013 #123

Can I be the first to post... TheProgressive Jan 2013 #124

Other...I support it as originally intended nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #133

Of course I support Amendment II. FresnoDemocrat Jan 2013 #140

I support it as long as it is an Amendment. However, like all other Amendments, it morningfog Jan 2013 #143

It's archaic, unnecessary, and downright stupid. Get rid of it. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #150

I support each state's national guard. grantcart Jan 2013 #151

Anachronism. Crunchy Frog Jan 2013 #153

I support the second amendment. xoom Jan 2013 #157

I support All Amendments . orpupilofnature57 Jan 2013 #159

As do I. xoom Jan 2013 #160

Cool . orpupilofnature57 Jan 2013 #161

Sweet . xoom Jan 2013 #162

VERY interesting results. Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #166

I fully support the repeal of the 2nd Amendment. (nt) stone space Aug 2014 #168