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Pab Sungenis

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Fri Jan 11, 2013, 03:05 PM Jan 2013

Why we keep having school shootings [View all]

Another week, another school shooting. And once again it's the same refrain that we're all too tone deaf to hear.

According to Daniel Politi in Slate:

Officials in the small Kern County community, around 120 miles northwest of Los Angeles, are investigating reports that the boy had a hit list of students he felt had bullied him that he had compiled last year, reports the Bakersfield Californian. “He had intended targets. There's no question,” Kern County Sheriff Donny Youngblood said.

Same old story. A bullied kid finally reaches the breaking point and, feeling he has no recourse, seeks to take revenge upon his attackers.

And how do we as a country respond? We villainize the victim of the original crime and lionize the aggressors.

It doesn't start at the shooting phase, though. It starts a lot sooner. If a kid fights back against bullies with his fists then our "zero tolerance" policies guarantee that the victim will be the one who pays worse than the bullies who seek to destroy his life. Stand up for yourself with administrators and you're just making yourself a bigger target for the bullies. You dig yourself deeper into the lower castes of the school, which makes you an even more attractive target for abuse.

Pretty soon, a kid feels he has no way out. I touched on this when I wrote A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Columbine, as expressed by my narrator, Jake:

Let me get one thing clear: if you have never thought about shooting up your school, you have never been a teenager, and anyone who says they don’t know what would drive a kid to doing it is either incredibly dense or a horrible liar.

The teenage years are incredibly hard on kids, with pressure from within and pressure from outside, and when you add in the fact that the modern high school is the best science project anyone could have ever dreamed up to study social cannibalism, no one should really be surprised when kids’ minds burst like firecrackers tossed into a barbecue pit. Honestly, I consider the simple fact that more kids don’t take up arms against the seas of troubles that threaten to drown them a testament to self-restraint.

When you’re a kid, everything is the most important thing that has ever happened, and every insult is the straw that broke the camel’s back. Sure, you can get over it pretty quickly if you try, but in those minutes right after the incident, it can truly seem like your world is ending unless you do something drastic.
Now, imagine that these last straws are being dumped on your already loaded down with a book bag back, one each second, every second of every day. Social stratification pushing down upon your helpless body with tons of pressure. Pressure to conform, to belong, and to behave just like everybody else. Then factor in the incessant push to excel from the parental units, which they make sure is scratching away at you constantly like a rabid hamster stuffed under your baseball cap, and tell me you wouldn’t feel the need to go batshit from time to time.

It’s supposed to be the same for the jocks and the cheerleaders, and the other “popular” types, but unless you’re one of them, you’ll never understand how the hell it can be. When someone is dumping a truck full of manure on top of you, you don’t stop to contemplate whether he’s worried about how he’s going to make the mortgage payment next month, you concentrate on trying to get him to stop smothering you in shit.

And what compounds this problem is the way we as a culture react when a victim finally fights back. Again, from my narrator:

“For the record, guys, I’m with Mick part of the way on this. I have no problem seeing the assholes that got away with beating up Topher pay, and pay through the nose. I don’t think I’d mind seeing any and all of the other jocks get it, either. But there’s one important thing that we’re forgetting.” I paused for a second, cleared my throat, and fought the effort by my stomach to push some bile up into my mouth to shut me up. Like Mick and Topher, and probably Whitey, I was mad. Really mad, and I had to force the logical side of my brain to take control. “And that’s one simple fact: if there’s one problem with school shootings, other than the obvious carnage related difficulties, of course, it’s that people never seem to learn the lesson.”

I stopped again, and looked over the three of them. Topher was glaring even worse than he had been during Mick’s screed. Whitey looked intrigued, as if he guessed where I was going. Mick just crossed his arms and defiantly prodded me. “Go on.”

“By all rights, Columbine should have gotten the message across loud and clear to kids across the country: don’t fuck with the wrong people or you will end up dead. It didn’t, though, and neither did the killings that came later, because people love victims. Because a couple of kids who were sick of being kicked around killed their oppressors, they wound up making themselves into the bad guys, and made the bad guys into victims in everyone’s eyes. People were too overcome with grief over the senseless bloodshed to think about what had driven the two shooters to do what they did. And for those jocks, having their blood spilled wound up washing away their sins as far as everyone was concerned. Don’t think about what they were really like, turn them into perfect little angels in everyone’s eyes. And, personally, I am not really in favor of giving the world of jocks any new martyrs.”

If we started portraying these "victims" of shootings like the monsters they were, instead of pretending that they were harmless little lambs, then maybe some other bullies might start getting the message. Maybe administrators would start taking bullying seriously. Maybe we'd start attacking the problem with school violence at its root.

Zero tolerance for bullies, not for those that fight back. Expel the bullies. Protect the victims. Don't tolerate the Social Darwinism that goes on in the hallways.

Until you treat the disease, the symptoms will keep recurring. And far too many people are blind to what the real disease is.
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Why we keep having school shootings [View all] Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 OP
Sure. Why not? Also, put the people who allowed them to get their hands on guns in prison. onehandle Jan 2013 #1
Whoosh!!!!! nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #2
I don't doubt this could be A reason. I doubt it is THE reason HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #3
Good post malaise Jan 2013 #4
I never thought about shooting up my school. Of course my high school marybourg Jan 2013 #5
Bullies didn't exist before 1999? lynne Jan 2013 #6
School shootings go back further than 1999 too. Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #8
And those who said it was the result of bullying got it wrong Major Nikon Jan 2013 #22
It was also during the Assault Weapon Ban Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2013 #12
Harris was popular. He wasn't bullied. Recursion Jan 2013 #13
He was also a monster who taunted his victims before killing them Major Nikon Jan 2013 #23
in Columbine the Killer Harris was the Bully JI7 Jan 2013 #27
Yes, it was those mean old bullies at Sany Hook elementary that made Lanza go off, MadHound Jan 2013 #7
Actually, yes. Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #9
ok Dr Frist. dionysus Jan 2013 #56
Disagree on one point sarisataka Jan 2013 #10
1.The bullying meme has been refuted in re: Columbine MichiganVote Jan 2013 #11
No, it really was not refuted. Not well or decisively. DevonRex Jan 2013 #15
+1,000,000 alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #26
Yup. Same people screaming about bullying in schools, let their offspring MichiganVote Jan 2013 #29
Going postal... loyalsister Jan 2013 #14
The youth who killed at Columbine were Sociopaths. They felt nothing. MichiganVote Jan 2013 #24
You know this from loyalsister Jan 2013 #30
8 years of research. And yes, we DO know this about these killers. MichiganVote Jan 2013 #31
We don't really know that though. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #59
Would anyone here consider a broader look at this problem? Rapunzel_39 Jan 2013 #16
Starts with the structural problems nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #17
Off the Deep End? Rapunzel_39 Jan 2013 #18
The article argues on globalism nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #19
Structural Issues Rapunzel_39 Jan 2013 #20
You can have the discussion without going to ct territory. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #21
Okay then, we won't go there, Nadin. Rapunzel_39 Jan 2013 #32
I don't talk of "globalism" nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #33
Globalism isn't a four-letter word Rapunzel_39 Jan 2013 #35
Sorry, no, not in Alex Jone's terms. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #39
This is the appropriate place for increased mental health services in the schools. libdem4life Jan 2013 #25
Most of the Mass Shootings are not because of Bullying, this was one case and the kid targeted those JI7 Jan 2013 #28
That part right there: Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #34
The main reason why there is more violence in the U.S. is due to the high level of hate propaganda. AdHocSolver Jan 2013 #36
Mexico has more gun problems but no school shootings rightsideout Jan 2013 #37
The children of Sandy Hook hadn't bullied that young man. tblue Jan 2013 #38
"Bullying" isn't the problem; it's sociopathy duffyduff Jan 2013 #40
Right. And in the schools, we watch them grow up. MichiganVote Jan 2013 #49
what a dim and repulsive op, hon. cali Jan 2013 #41
And thus we see why the problem Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #45
In the history of mass murder by teens in their schools there have been exactly lunatica Jan 2013 #42
"how many teens killing their fellow students - bullies or not? 4? 5? half a dozen? "- source here green for victory Jan 2013 #51
Is that supposed to make my comment wrong? lunatica Jan 2013 #54
. Go Vols Jan 2013 #43
your op is just so wrong on so many levels cali Jan 2013 #44
Who says it justifies? Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #47
well let's see, you frickin' call the victims of those shooters cali Jan 2013 #48
They are monsters. Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #55
oh those vile little monsters in Newtown CT. cali Jan 2013 #57
The Columbine Shooters loose wheel Jan 2013 #46
Yes and no XemaSab Jan 2013 #50
... FlyDaddy145 Jan 2013 #52
An excellent movie on this subject is "Murder by Proxy." JDPriestly Jan 2013 #53
Here are some of the "monsters" of Newtown Floyd_Gondolli Jan 2013 #58
And by bringing up Newtown Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #60
You are a very sick person Floyd_Gondolli Jan 2013 #61
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