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sarisataka

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10. Disagree on one point

Fri Jan 11, 2013, 07:25 PM

Jan 2013

If we started portraying these "victims" of shootings like the monsters they were, instead of pretending that they were harmless little lambs,

Not all of the victims are bullies. There are a lot that end up paying the supreme penalty for the misdeeds of others.

Our current system is set up to support the bullies and push the outsiders farther out. A victim of bullying is told report it- but nothing happens. We have seen how athletes are protected from punishment for their crimes. Or they are told ignore it and walk away. Yet each and every day they are subjected to torture with growing frustration of powerlessness and a complete lack of support.

I will never condone a shooting outside of an immediate self defense situation, but I can understand what leads some to believe they have no other option but to take matters into their own hands.

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Why we keep having school shootings [View all] Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 OP

Sure. Why not? Also, put the people who allowed them to get their hands on guns in prison. onehandle Jan 2013 #1

Whoosh!!!!! nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #2

I don't doubt this could be A reason. I doubt it is THE reason HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #3

Good post malaise Jan 2013 #4

I never thought about shooting up my school. Of course my high school marybourg Jan 2013 #5

Bullies didn't exist before 1999? lynne Jan 2013 #6

School shootings go back further than 1999 too. Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #8

And those who said it was the result of bullying got it wrong Major Nikon Jan 2013 #22

It was also during the Assault Weapon Ban Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2013 #12

Harris was popular. He wasn't bullied. Recursion Jan 2013 #13

He was also a monster who taunted his victims before killing them Major Nikon Jan 2013 #23

in Columbine the Killer Harris was the Bully JI7 Jan 2013 #27

Yes, it was those mean old bullies at Sany Hook elementary that made Lanza go off, MadHound Jan 2013 #7

Actually, yes. Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #9

ok Dr Frist. dionysus Jan 2013 #56

Disagree on one point sarisataka Jan 2013 #10

1.The bullying meme has been refuted in re: Columbine MichiganVote Jan 2013 #11

No, it really was not refuted. Not well or decisively. DevonRex Jan 2013 #15

+1,000,000 alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #26

Yup. Same people screaming about bullying in schools, let their offspring MichiganVote Jan 2013 #29

Going postal... loyalsister Jan 2013 #14

The youth who killed at Columbine were Sociopaths. They felt nothing. MichiganVote Jan 2013 #24

You know this from loyalsister Jan 2013 #30

8 years of research. And yes, we DO know this about these killers. MichiganVote Jan 2013 #31

We don't really know that though. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #59

Would anyone here consider a broader look at this problem? Rapunzel_39 Jan 2013 #16

Starts with the structural problems nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #17

Off the Deep End? Rapunzel_39 Jan 2013 #18

The article argues on globalism nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #19

Structural Issues Rapunzel_39 Jan 2013 #20

You can have the discussion without going to ct territory. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #21

Okay then, we won't go there, Nadin. Rapunzel_39 Jan 2013 #32

I don't talk of "globalism" nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #33

Globalism isn't a four-letter word Rapunzel_39 Jan 2013 #35

Sorry, no, not in Alex Jone's terms. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #39

This is the appropriate place for increased mental health services in the schools. libdem4life Jan 2013 #25

Most of the Mass Shootings are not because of Bullying, this was one case and the kid targeted those JI7 Jan 2013 #28

That part right there: Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #34

The main reason why there is more violence in the U.S. is due to the high level of hate propaganda. AdHocSolver Jan 2013 #36

Mexico has more gun problems but no school shootings rightsideout Jan 2013 #37

The children of Sandy Hook hadn't bullied that young man. tblue Jan 2013 #38

"Bullying" isn't the problem; it's sociopathy duffyduff Jan 2013 #40

Right. And in the schools, we watch them grow up. MichiganVote Jan 2013 #49

what a dim and repulsive op, hon. cali Jan 2013 #41

And thus we see why the problem Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #45

In the history of mass murder by teens in their schools there have been exactly lunatica Jan 2013 #42

"how many teens killing their fellow students - bullies or not? 4? 5? half a dozen? "- source here green for victory Jan 2013 #51

Is that supposed to make my comment wrong? lunatica Jan 2013 #54

. Go Vols Jan 2013 #43

your op is just so wrong on so many levels cali Jan 2013 #44

Who says it justifies? Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #47

well let's see, you frickin' call the victims of those shooters cali Jan 2013 #48

They are monsters. Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #55

oh those vile little monsters in Newtown CT. cali Jan 2013 #57

The Columbine Shooters loose wheel Jan 2013 #46

Yes and no XemaSab Jan 2013 #50

... FlyDaddy145 Jan 2013 #52

An excellent movie on this subject is "Murder by Proxy." JDPriestly Jan 2013 #53

Here are some of the "monsters" of Newtown Floyd_Gondolli Jan 2013 #58

And by bringing up Newtown Pab Sungenis Jan 2013 #60

You are a very sick person Floyd_Gondolli Jan 2013 #61