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In reply to the discussion: I am watching Oliver Stone's "Untold History" and, wow, I have to say ... [View all]Confusious
(8,317 posts)87. I already did, but you seem to want to get your outrage on
Last edited Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:54 PM - Edit history (3)
So you didn't even look.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=90202
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=90144
It's right up there.
Was it all therefore inaccurate, one sided bullshit?
History doesn't record every detail of everything. What was Alexander's the greats favorite food? I'd like to know. Unfortunately we'll never know. Doesn't mean it one sided, just means we don't know.
There are things we do know, and those thing Stone likes to leave out, and include "opinion" (like Wallace) with no proof things would have been different one way or the other, or even worse. That's what makes it bullshit.
The history of America will not tell the history of your town
No it won't. You look up your town's history in your town. The United States, as a country, takes actions independent of a town, or a state. You look at the actions the GOVERNMENT takes. Now if the GOVERNMENT has some interaction with your town as an independent entity, then it becomes part of US history, like the United States government putting riots down in New York during the civil war.
If you can't see that, it's willful ignorance.
Thus it is incomplete and apparently therefore bullshit....
Or you're being disingenuous. (Means not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does)
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I am watching Oliver Stone's "Untold History" and, wow, I have to say ... [View all]
redgreenandblue
Jan 2013
OP
Yes. What I have posted is just my initial impression from the first two episodes.
redgreenandblue
Jan 2013
#2
Darlin' ,I just knew you would be able to post the rest of the links I have been looking for!!!
dixiegrrrrl
Jan 2013
#47
Thanks for the links everyone, on to episode 3. It'll be a long night. Very interesting.
JaneyVee
Jan 2013
#53
I'll keep that perspective in mind, but I still want to finish watching the series.
redgreenandblue
Jan 2013
#28
So did our history books when I was coming up, even at the college level.
TheKentuckian
Jan 2013
#36
We certainly killed civilians by design in Dresden, and the British did the same in Berlin
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2013
#64
When you find yourself saying "I'm not saying Stalin wasn't the most evil person ever, BUT..."
Recursion
Jan 2013
#15
The big question is, can one directly pin the famines on #1 and #2 of these three.
redgreenandblue
Jan 2013
#30
Re-watch Stone's own picture. He downplayed it and left out most of the details but even he tells
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2013
#56
Some of us can seperate the sacrifice and contribution of the Russian people
newthinking
Jan 2013
#73
I'd agree with you insofar as saying Stalin had a huge influence on the 20th century
DisgustipatedinCA
Jan 2013
#65
Haven't seen Oliver Stone's version but did see a Russian documentary on Stalin
lunatica
Jan 2013
#12
The brutality of Stalin's is perhaps underrepresented in the Stone documentary.
redgreenandblue
Jan 2013
#13
I'm not trying to excuse the mass murders he commited against his political enemies.
redgreenandblue
Jan 2013
#25
Bingo. The Soviet (as they were known back then) military lost between 8,800,000 to....
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#70