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40. I think there are conspiracy wackos, but the people who deny all conspiracies are even more wacko

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:12 PM

Jan 2013

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I am open minded on the JFK case, I was not there and do not know what happened. There are multiple accounts of what may have happened and I don't pretend to know the real truth. I don't think anyone who claims to know the whole truth has any credibility whatsoever whether they believe in a single shooter or multiple shooters.

Whether the lone gunman theory is accurate or not however I will say this, people who automatically dismiss all allegations of government conspiracy are even more nuts than the crazies who wear tin foil hats.

A conspiracy is defined as a crime with the collaberation of two or more people, that is it. I can assure you our government is not filled entirely with innocent people who would never commit crimes. Yes there are nutty conspiracy theories out there, but it defies all logical sense to say that because there are some wacky conspiracy theories out there that all conspiracies should automatically be dismissed. Watergate was a conspiracy, Iran Contra was a conspiracy, conspiracies do happen and the fact that there are some crazy people out there who put out ridiculous explanations for "what really happened" does not mean we should not question the official story.

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NBC News: RFK Jr: 'Very convincing' evidence that JFK wasn't killed by lone gunman [View all] NewsCenter28 Jan 2013 OP

I wonder why he supported the warren commission publicly. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #1

I suspect Sherman A1 Jan 2013 #3

This is RFK JUNIOR talking--not Bobby. Junior was a kid at the time. MADem Jan 2013 #76

and if he'd heard it from his mother, the significance would be....? HiPointDem Jan 2013 #99

She didn't know everything....she was out of the loop on occasion. nt MADem Jan 2013 #106

Here's the thing. SheilaT Jan 2013 #2

Wow! n/t truth2power Jan 2013 #4

Just wishful thinking.???? Speed8098 Jan 2013 #7

Every conspiracy wacko sharp_stick Jan 2013 #13

So do you consider RFK Jr. to be a conspiracy wacko? Bjorn Against Jan 2013 #21

Based on this sharp_stick Jan 2013 #33

I think there are conspiracy wackos, but the people who deny all conspiracies are even more wacko Bjorn Against Jan 2013 #40

There are conspiracies cpwm17 Jan 2013 #80

The neo-cons you cite... Bjorn Against Jan 2013 #81

As I said, neocons are both conspirators and CT'ers cpwm17 Jan 2013 #82

sharp stick Eddie Haskell Jan 2013 #30

Nice try Eddie sharp_stick Jan 2013 #31

You can disagree with someone without being shitty, you know--calling the poster a "rotting stump" MADem Jan 2013 #78

Nut jobs vs rotting stump.... pot meet kettle. arthritisR_US Jan 2013 #97

Because two wrongs make a right? MADem Jan 2013 #107

If you are going to call out one be fecking consistent arthritisR_US Jan 2013 #108

I desire that you NOT be disagreeable--plainly I won't get my wish. nt MADem Jan 2013 #111

Here's the thing Cetacea Jan 2013 #8

Here's the thing... EOTE Jan 2013 #9

There's been plenty Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #15

I'll take RFK's word over yours, Spider Jerusalem. Octafish Jan 2013 #22

No, they don't, and RFK Jr is an ex-smackhead who also believes that vaccines cause autism Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #23

I didn't get that impression of him when he came to WSU to talk in 2007. Octafish Jan 2013 #26

Truth in public? No Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #27

Wow. The guy you called 'Smackhead' puts together a controversial report on vaccines... Octafish Jan 2013 #35

Because Fletcher Prouty is a reliable source. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #36

Like I wrote, I'll take RFK Jr.'s word over yours, Spider Jerusalem. Octafish Jan 2013 #39

Address the results of neutron activation analysis and trajectory reconstruction then. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #42

Advances in forensic science have revealed both of your contentions to be wrong. Octafish Jan 2013 #44

Here we go again. William Seger Jan 2013 #135

So you have to wait ''years'' for me to explain that fraction of the Zapruder film, William Seger? Octafish Jan 2013 #137

LOL, I was being facetious, of course William Seger Jan 2013 #145

Don't you get it? Conspiracy nuts seldom stop with one conspiracy. cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #49

So a fellow Democrat-one whose family has sacrificed so much for this nation-is a 'conspiracy kook'? Octafish Jan 2013 #50

Once again, you insult instead of debating. zappaman Jan 2013 #88

So what? Like you, Mel Ayton is fixed on the lone nut hypothesis. Octafish Jan 2013 #100

Like you, Mark Lane is fixed on the multiple shooter hypothesis. zappaman Jan 2013 #113

Mark Lane is correct. Which is why I support his work. Octafish Jan 2013 #114

You support his work? zappaman Jan 2013 #115

Nice smear, zappaman. Lane, as an attorney, defended Liberty Lobby. Octafish Jan 2013 #116

Knew all that my friend zappaman Jan 2013 #117

Again you smear Mark Lane, zappaman, meaning you were only feigning ignorance. Octafish Jan 2013 #121

The lack of physical evidence contradicting the conclusions of the Warren Report is not surprising JDPriestly Jan 2013 #105

Bull shit. The proof is on the shoulders of the conspiracy fools. Logical Jan 2013 #58

It's so clear that JFK's autopsy was on the up and up. EOTE Jan 2013 #75

Oswald's Alibi johnsolaris Jan 2013 #102

Thanks for this. EOTE Jan 2013 #142

"wishful thinking" that the "magic bullet" explanation would be believed - a convoluted theory. n/t AnotherMother4Peace Jan 2013 #17

An amazing bullet... And Santa's real don't ya know arthritisR_US Jan 2013 #98

Have you ever been to the site in Dallas? proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #19

6th Floor Window? Bobcat Jan 2013 #51

Exactly. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #52

Because Oswald worked at the book depository creeksneakers2 Jan 2013 #55

BULLSHIT.....I was there and about 5 people from work..... Logical Jan 2013 #59

One shot. Not two. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #63

I live near there and have been to the museum several times Major Nikon Jan 2013 #77

Good information, thanks!! n-t Logical Jan 2013 #84

I was there as well. zappaman Jan 2013 #89

The late great Bill Hicks echoes your observations CrawlingChaos Jan 2013 #110

I agree with you BeyondGeography Jan 2013 #46

Not true. There have been multiple confessions and a growing mountain of evidence. alberg Jan 2013 #56

People love the fun of thinking it was a huge cover up. More fun than the truth. Logical Jan 2013 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author PCIntern Jan 2013 #64

The evidence presented is what they want DevonRex Jan 2013 #92

Well there was a thread here on DU robbob Jan 2013 #125

Try this -- How is JFK hit from the front as they drive AWAY from the book depository ? KurtNYC Jan 2013 #140

...and it's not the only suspect tragedy & pack of lies America has experienced Berlum Jan 2013 #5

Right wing hit job. boomerbust Jan 2013 #6

This means RFK would have conducted a different investigation if he had become President Welcome_hubby Jan 2013 #10

I will never, ever believe that Oswald acted alone CanonRay Jan 2013 #11

Amen to that. eom mfcorey1 Jan 2013 #12

The nation has not been the same since Nov.22, 1963. Octafish Jan 2013 #14

Thanks NC. +1, no text. Mc Mike Jan 2013 #16

one man's opinion. nothing more. spanone Jan 2013 #18

It's all gumdrops and rainbows for the Lone Gunman theorists. karpool Jan 2013 #20

+100! arthritisR_US Jan 2013 #28

The Wizard of Oz's curtains are made of dollar bills. Gregorian Jan 2013 #43

And the nuts love thinking it was a a cover up. Like 911, etc. People love stories. Not the truth. Logical Jan 2013 #60

You forgot to mention the trusted corporations! laundry_queen Jan 2013 #66

+1000 n/t Catherina Jan 2013 #83

That's one big straw man cpwm17 Jan 2013 #85

False dichotomy Major Nikon Jan 2013 #94

yeah, they would not like the list at this site KakistocracyHater Jan 2013 #104

He's as wrong as anybody else who thinks this duffyduff Jan 2013 #24

"People have been so easily conned by" the arthritisR_US Jan 2013 #29

There's significantly more evidence supporting Rober Kennedy Jr's viewpoint alberg Jan 2013 #61

The level of competition between organized elites is much higher than generally believed FarCenter Jan 2013 #25

I love DU3. Ron Green Jan 2013 #32

You have to be pretty brain dead to think that there was just one gunman budkin Jan 2013 #34

Take the investigation to its full extent... backscatter712 Jan 2013 #37

Where's new evidence that hasn't been thoroughly debunked? nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #38

Well, we get to hear from an eyewitness what Attorney General Kennedy thought. Octafish Jan 2013 #41

The Madeleine Duncan Brown interview and sagesnow Jan 2013 #45

RFK jr. is a conspiracy nut, so this is consistent cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #47

I agree with you about the vaccines but he's right on this topic. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #53

WOO! RomneyLies Jan 2013 #48

OH NOES! He said WOO! Quick, shut down the DISCUSSION! laundry_queen Jan 2013 #67

This is the same idiot who thinks vaccines cause autism. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #54

Therefore everything he's ever said or will say is disqualified? laundry_queen Jan 2013 #65

It swhows he's into woo. n/t RomneyLies Jan 2013 #68

Say woo again. Please. It cracks me up. nt laundry_queen Jan 2013 #69

. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #70

Well, you're bright enough to find the smilies. laundry_queen Jan 2013 #71

I was given explicit instructions on how to do so by the Illuminati RomneyLies Jan 2013 #72

Well you done gone lost me now. nt laundry_queen Jan 2013 #73

Here's some more zappaman Jan 2013 #90

Attorney General Kennedy recognized the Ruby-Mafia ties. Octafish Jan 2013 #62

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #74

you H2O Man Jan 2013 #86

I have seen that exact same post from him before re Kennedy. Kingofalldems Jan 2013 #122

In general, I avoid H2O Man Jan 2013 #124

Eh. Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #79

The family did H2O Man Jan 2013 #87

Wow! zappaman Jan 2013 #91

The chihuahua is a H2O Man Jan 2013 #95

LOL! zappaman Jan 2013 #112

Is that all you got? H2O Man Jan 2013 #119

"Have you read all 26 volumes of the WCR" is a Bugliosi quote? zappaman Jan 2013 #120

Considering that H2O Man Jan 2013 #123

You're searching for reasons to not believe the evidence cpwm17 Jan 2013 #128

"A majority of witnesses H2O Man Jan 2013 #129

And later on DevonRex Jan 2013 #93

I was quite young when Evers, JFK, MLK, RFK and others were murdered. This is a painful subject. freshwest Jan 2013 #96

Go rent the movie "Executive Action" Rosco T. Jan 2013 #101

EXCELLENT film ailsagirl Jan 2013 #143

Best put RFK Jr and the Church Committee into Creative Speculation. PufPuf23 Jan 2013 #103

It's admirable that, when faced with an unimaginable crisis, Hosnon Jan 2013 #109

JFK was killed by the mafia IWelcome TheirHatred Jan 2013 #118

Just about everybody knows there are huge questions about both murders Warpy Jan 2013 #126

if there was no there there, I doubt so many Chihuahuas would be here fascisthunter Jan 2013 #127

True, that. H2O Man Jan 2013 #130

reminds me of this one fascisthunter Jan 2013 #147

The existence of posters that disagree with the OP is evidence that the conspiracy is correct? cpwm17 Jan 2013 #136

try harder fascisthunter Jan 2013 #146

GULITY = Rightwingnuts Berlum Jan 2013 #131

The timing of this sikofit3 Jan 2013 #132

"As the hour of my demise closes in, I must at last reveal all." - Poppy 'Skull & Boner Bush (R) Berlum Jan 2013 #133

I have always felt JFK was a mafia hit because they felt betrayed by him WI_DEM Jan 2013 #134

JFK killed by mafia because of Bobby's tenacious pursuit. IWelcome TheirHatred Jan 2013 #138

why would the government cover up a mob hit? WooWooWoo Jan 2013 #139

Hartmann and Waldron... IWelcome TheirHatred Jan 2013 #141

It's called the fourth bullet Taverner Jan 2013 #144