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Chichiri

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99. This video caused a huge argument between me and the Missus.

Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:03 PM

Jan 2013

While she agrees that water is a human right, she also believes the following:

1) That since this guy comes from Germany, where they have a good social safety net and people aren't batshit insane, he must be just misunderstood. He's a good guy who wants to help people, because that's what you DO in Europe.

2) He's saying that water as a human right is an extreme end of the spectrum of ideas. He did not actually say that water is not a human right.

3) Yes, water does have a market value because a few places on Earth don't have access to water, and thus this basic human right can be bought and sold.

Now the air in the room is very cold.

(Incidentally, I asked her to watch the video because she speaks German and I wanted her to confirm the accuracy of the translation subtitles. They are indeed accurate.)

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Nestle Group -"Access to Water Is Not Your Right" [View all] Oilwellian Jan 2013 OP

Those assholes tried buying up land in Western Mass. Bonobo Jan 2013 #1

I have seen observations that the Kochs' most intense drive to power centers around the Great Lakes. patrice Jan 2013 #129

these ass hats don't get it. They are 1%. we are 99% with guns. I think it will be roguevalley Jan 2013 #159

Yuppies in the 80's made it a Starbucks kinda thing . orpupilofnature57 Jan 2013 #2

Here in south FL the water can be undrinkable. Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #5

We have an inline water distiller for drinking & cooking water. CrispyQ Jan 2013 #34

Chlorine is rough on everything.... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #64

Yes, but since we only live on the surface, the analogy is false. eggplant Jan 2013 #115

How is it 'fear mongering' to promote a more accurate understanding dorkulon Jan 2013 #121

Because it implies that there isn't very much water (oh noes!)... eggplant Jan 2013 #123

It doesn't imply a thing. dorkulon Jan 2013 #128

I consider it facing reality, not fear mongering. CrispyQ Jan 2013 #183

Why so stupid???! tblue Jan 2013 #66

Growth... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #76

MIL lives down there--a new well was drilled for her community Maeve Jan 2013 #106

My son had a friend who lived in a community with only well water. Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #109

Tell me about it. I lived there most of my life. RebelOne Jan 2013 #186

That reminds me of something Bainbridge Bear Jan 2013 #10

And Evian spelled backwards is naive. Fitting, I guess. bulloney Jan 2013 #70

At least with Perrier... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #170

It's so much better for people than buying pepsi, coke, and other bottled soft drinks. loudsue Jan 2013 #44

The essential question is: should human beings be denied access to potable water alberg Jan 2013 #72

I believe in Colorado it is still illegal to collect rain water teewrex Jan 2013 #75

It's legal now ybbor Jan 2013 #90

And...Remember the Bushies buying all that Land in Paraguay? AQUIFER! KoKo Jan 2013 #156

I've never bought any of those brands... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #3

Yeah, one thing Fl doesn't have is good water Ligyron Jan 2013 #119

Tampa tom_kelly Jan 2013 #164

If access to water isn't a right, then let's limit their access to air. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #4

If only there were a way... Oilwellian Jan 2013 #6

jail 'em. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #7

It started with the notion of pay toilets Wednesdays Jan 2013 #11

Pay toilets have been around for a very long time, billyclem Jan 2013 #113

+1,000. Privatization is the new Apartheid. The Rich will live, the Poor will die. freshwest Jan 2013 #162

And the sad fact is the taxes would be less than the "market" price. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #163

It is a religion. Capitalism is faith based and has more followers than any other brand. Really. freshwest Jan 2013 #165

Not a great comparison. It costs nothing to deliver air to you. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #17

Clean air costs money too NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #21

No, that's different. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #26

Not far off, probably... superpatriotman Jan 2013 #84

Yup. theaocp Jan 2013 #152

Trust me, someone sat down and calculated the amount of air the human body uses in a lifetime,... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #93

No doubt. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #96

A face pillow for each one of 'em. nt valerief Jan 2013 #20

Tyranny doesn't just come from governments TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #8

Where did he get that creepy looking human costume? RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #9

Right? His eyes look painted on demwing Jan 2013 #36

Somebody has to build an infrastructure to deliver drinking water and take care of sewage. It costs. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #12

What you describe... Oilwellian Jan 2013 #40

Privatization of public utilities covers a broad spectrum. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #43

Yes. The taxpayers of my state and county paid. PotatoChip Jan 2013 #52

None of that has to do with any need for them to own the water. Pay for the service? Sure. TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #97

It's a philosophical difference. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #98

If they could find a way to meter how much air they breathed gollygee Jan 2013 #13

If the air became so polluted that it was dangerous to breathe ... Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #15

They could sell the technology to the government gollygee Jan 2013 #19

Agreed! Same thing with water systems? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #22

As long as it was overseen gollygee Jan 2013 #23

Left on their own to make decisions, private companies may deny service due to lack of payment. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #29

Exactly! gollygee Jan 2013 #30

I would say that that depends on who polluted the air in the first place..... socialist_n_TN Jan 2013 #81

Interesting post! Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #87

Long time Marxist and fundamental Bolsheviki here...... socialist_n_TN Jan 2013 #91

Great stuff. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #94

Let me add a bit about micron sized particles billyclem Jan 2013 #117

Not an engineer, so let me see if I can sum this up....... socialist_n_TN Jan 2013 #147

Taking the plot off the original Total Recall hugh PatrynXX Jan 2013 #14

Back in the 70s sulphurdunn Jan 2013 #16

Yeah, good ole Nestle! Happy to see someone else remembers this history. Thanks. nt mountain grammy Jan 2013 #39

I remember that - many churches boycotted SomeGuyInEagan Jan 2013 #102

NOW Nestl� is infiltrating US cities by paying money vanlassie Jan 2013 #153

Find out how many are using a public or municipal water source.... Historic NY Jan 2013 #18

You're talking about bottled water, right? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #32

Yes, Exactly... Historic NY Jan 2013 #56

It's true that chlorine can screw things up. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #59

I have an answer to these corporate monsters: 99Forever Jan 2013 #24

I'll be right back with the pitchforks to help irisblue Jan 2013 #33

I think they deserve to suffer what they intend to inflict Generic Other Aug 2013 #193

Buying water never made any sense in the first place. DireStrike Jan 2013 #25

Or even better, try to get people not to join with hands with them by investing in Wall St. raouldukelives Jan 2013 #27

For the apologist for the capitalist system............. socialist_n_TN Jan 2013 #28

And what might that be? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #31

If you need to be told... 99Forever Jan 2013 #38

(oh! it's a secret!) Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #41

close? Not even. 99Forever Jan 2013 #42

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #45

Hint: watch the video MNBrewer Jan 2013 #51

I watched the whole thing. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #54

yes, if you watched the video, you have your answer MNBrewer Jan 2013 #60

socialist_n_TN is quite capable of expressing his/her own opinion. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #67

The person in post #28 didn't seem to think so MNBrewer Jan 2013 #151

Yep that's it in a nutshell MN..... socialist_n_TN Jan 2013 #78

I guess only... 99Forever Jan 2013 #71

OK, I'll play.... socialist_n_TN Jan 2013 #48

Ok. I was pretty close. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #57

being cryptic isn't clever BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #61

Sorry it you considered my first answer cryptic........ socialist_n_TN Jan 2013 #79

Free marketers always factor out revolution out of their economic formulas. Baitball Blogger Jan 2013 #35

How would a revolution help? nm rhett o rick Jan 2013 #172

Oh. I imagine if they privatized water, an essential element for survival, it would just happen Baitball Blogger Jan 2013 #174

Thanks. I never buy bottled water but I will take care to avoid Nestle products. MotherPetrie Jan 2013 #37

Nestle also makes lower-grade candy bars. Generic Other Aug 2013 #194

In Colorado, we have water and sewer "districts." mountain grammy Jan 2013 #46

Wow. One rarely sees such unctuous evil on display MNBrewer Jan 2013 #47

But he presents it so well..... formercia Jan 2013 #63

"free market" means free of rules, regulations, oversight and free of rights on your part pasto76 Jan 2013 #49

Part of this Nestle debate is related to formula gollygee Jan 2013 #50

Also, it is expensive so the mother has to dilute the formula to make it last. alfredo Jan 2013 #105

I NEVER buy water. RoccoR5955 Jan 2013 #53

I buy the store brand nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #55

I do too and for my fish tanks... Historic NY Jan 2013 #58

Nestle Group -"Access to Water Is Not Your Right" Snarkoleptic Jan 2013 #62

No bottled water, antiquie Jan 2013 #65

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German is such a romantic sounding lanuage. secondvariety Jan 2013 #69

Sounds fine to me. Ednahilda Jan 2013 #83

+100 lunasun Jan 2013 #89

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George Carlin said it best... Demoiselle Jan 2013 #74

Water is life. Idle no more. Check "Hydraulic Empire" on wikipedia.org. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #77

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Going back 15,000 years or more Speck Tater Jan 2013 #82

So it's not really a right The2ndWheel Jan 2013 #101

If 1000 people need water and there's only enough for 10 of them Speck Tater Jan 2013 #103

I don't buy ANY bottled water. BTW if you use a tap filter, the water is delicious, cheaper, safer? joanbarnes Jan 2013 #85

Much of the bottled water is tap water. alfredo Jan 2013 #107

Water is necessary. oldandhappy Jan 2013 #86

Thank You oldandhappy Jan 2013 #88

If you want to avoid Nestl� vanlassie Jan 2013 #155

At one point they actually considered a way of metering solid waste flushed.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #92

If you grew up on a Great Lake, like I did, you know its OUR water (yours and mine), not Nestle's. joanbarnes Jan 2013 #95

This video caused a huge argument between me and the Missus. Chichiri Jan 2013 #99

Thank you for verifying the translation Oilwellian Jan 2013 #122

Thanks for the info Canoe52 Jan 2013 #100

The water speculators in the third world has put up fences and posted guards by ponds and streams alfredo Jan 2013 #104

That reminds me of... Oilwellian Jan 2013 #126

And they know that pollen travels, so they can sue farmers downwind if they can find any patented alfredo Jan 2013 #134

Disgusting n/t Oilwellian Jan 2013 #127

Capitalism = the rationalization of psychopathic behavior. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #108

Right! Snarkoleptic Jan 2013 #112

What am I missing here? All water is sold for a price already. nt Takket Jan 2013 #110

I'm on a well, no cost for water here Fumesucker Jan 2013 #131

I live in the boonies and draw from a well Oilwellian Jan 2013 #148

oh yeah, forgot all about wells lol Takket Jan 2013 #154

Screw Nestle TheGov97 Jan 2013 #111

The subtitles, while weirdly implemented War Horse Jan 2013 #114

Water costs me about $30 for 2500 gallons each month. FarCenter Jan 2013 #116

Someone needs to let him know that continuing to live isn't necessarily *HIS* right. Matariki Jan 2013 #118

My thoughts .. sendero Jan 2013 #130

Psst... Hey Nestle Group !!! - FUCK YOU !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #120

LOL WillyT...tell it! n/t Oilwellian Jan 2013 #149

There are places in the world where you have to have a prepaid card to pump water. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #124

Bectel got kicked out of Bolivia because it's hard line on the people. They were even alfredo Jan 2013 #135

Next we will hear that they own the air and if we do not pay, we can expect to have a bag put over DhhD Jan 2013 #125

They don't own the sun and that's why solar energy has been so slow being deployed. alfredo Jan 2013 #137

Nestle is pumping our Great Lakes dry and sending the water to China. Bet you didn't know that. judesedit Jan 2013 #132

Any source material on that? alfredo Jan 2013 #136

Capitalism nineteen50 Jan 2013 #133

yep. this has to STOPPPPPPPPPPPP Divine Discontent Jan 2013 #138

Our government? Why our government? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #143

Los Angeles city water is great, yet the idiots who live here insist on BUYING water. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #139

Controversial Trade Pact Text Leaked, Shows U.S. Trade Officials Have Agreed to Terms That Undermine farminator3000 Jan 2013 #140

there doesn't appear to even be a list of which 600 corporations are part of the TPP farminator3000 Jan 2013 #141

More sociopathic douchebags trying to control our resources for their wealth. Initech Jan 2013 #142

You do realize that they entering into mutually beneficial contracts with various govt entities... Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #144

We should start a petition to deport these clowns PD Turk Jan 2013 #145

Not my right? brandonk Jan 2013 #146

Thanks, Oilwellian.... ReRe Jan 2013 #150

You're welcome Oilwellian Jan 2013 #187

Thanks for the link to... ReRe Jan 2013 #189

K &R Champion Jack Jan 2013 #157

More free market crap. blackspade Jan 2013 #158

Poland springs is better anyways..... kaboom15 Jan 2013 #160

Nestle owns it now, and they are draining our (Maine's) aquifers. GreenPartyVoter Jan 2013 #179

Next, they'll insist they have the right to harvest it Ilsa Jan 2013 #161

What About those Air-to-Water Machines? triplepoint Jan 2013 #166

This message was self-deleted by its author savebigbird Jan 2013 #182

What the corps are saying is Third Doctor Jan 2013 #167

Like they say on South Park... Kurovski Jan 2013 #168

Control wrenken Jan 2013 #169

. blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #171

If we don't have the right to access water... the devil Jan 2013 #173

Stop buying water? I have a better idea. Scootaloo Jan 2013 #175

Just remember Bechtel and Bolivia ChachaCha Jan 2013 #176

I prefer the brand, Tap. tavalon Jan 2013 #177

Stop buying bottled water nublecrusher Jan 2013 #178

As Maude Barlow said: marmar Jan 2013 #180

Excellent contribution to the discussion n/t Oilwellian Jan 2013 #188

Revelation is at hand. Republican Family Values (Europa Style) Berlum Jan 2013 #181

K&R! countryjake Jan 2013 #184

moland spring otherone Jan 2013 #185

i'm disgusted with nestle - i won't be buying any of their products if i can help it samsingh Jan 2013 #190

this is another romney 47 moment samsingh Jan 2013 #191

i'm boycotting nestle samsingh Jan 2013 #192

Someone put the video on private Generic Other Aug 2013 #195

Nestle responds to its critics by lying Generic Other Aug 2013 #196