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In reply to the discussion: Banning assault rifles will do no good. [View all]libdem4life
(13,877 posts)of murder...as intelligent people...
Murder (not accident) by car...murder by rope...murder by crowbar...wonder if we've reached double digits yet? Even cars, the intent is to take a human from one place to another, same as an airplane or a horse or a motorcycle. Cars, motorcycles and airplanes do have actuarial details as to their liability in death...hence insurance. Ropes and crowbars have not yet been rated.
So, again as intelligent people, which of the above wreak havoc in our society? Guns. The reason insurance companies haven't had to pay a lot of money is because we have become cowed by the fact that when guns murder people, it's just unfortunate accidents or murderous rage, or kids playing cops and robbers, and the NRA makes more money/members etc and the taxpayer just picks up the tab.
The devil is in the details. We are adding up the social, familial, domestic and national toll of gun violence. And yes, it will cost everyone who has a small gun a small amount to support the wackos that cause the violence...big war WMD, a lot based on their likely carnage. Others will released/melted down from civilized society. In the meantime, victims are going to sue everyone in the neighborhood for recourse.
A bystander at Gabby Giffords shooting had a gun and stated he did not pull it out for fear of being killed himself and/or shooting some innocent person because it was so confusing. Smart man. Kept it in his pants. You come upon a wacko shooting people, and you draw and accidentally shoot a bystander, prepare for your life to change radically.
Someone uses a gun to hurt me or mine, I don't care what the scenario up to and including the civic laws or lack of laws, I will have justice. And I will own that person, his estate, anyone's property this happened on, his manufacturer, his dealer, whoever sold it to him, gun show, any municipality that approved guns, et al. And god help him or her if they have alcohol in their system.
This is how we will get gun insurance. Spread the liability around. I believe places of business will decide to disallow guns in their premises...open carry or not...as the man who was fumbling with his gun someplace in Arizona and accidentally shot his wife in a restaurant. 'The restaurant is liable. No we're not talking about crowbars and stringin' folk up in the public square.
Guns that play nice, minimal insurance, re-registration, taxes and fees. Keep them in the basement and don't let kids or domestic partners get at them in the wrong frame of mind. Criminals...will not see the light of day for a very long time. I could go on, but hopefully the intent and the point is made.
Guns are going to get expensive and accountable and responsible. We'll pass on the crowbars, ropes, et al for now.