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Luminous Animal

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122. Some are but all those skinny 18-28 year old are not law enforcement but

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 01:16 AM

Jan 2013

rather paid for their "services". Somewhere, behind back doors, there is a directive to let them be. It still pisses me off when I think of the images of the cops doing nothing when "kids" rampaged through the Mission District of San Francisco. No doubt the strategy was to smear Occupy. Unfortunately for whoever concocted that stage craft, failed. The owners of the small businesses that were targeted were highly suspicious of police inaction and Occupy kicked in gear to help them clean up. The excuse the cops gave for not wading into the Mission District black bloc action is that they were concerned about the officers safety.

Contrast that with the multiple arrest during the Giants Win Riot. A far more violent action and the cops had no problem wading in and not only arresting vandals but others who merely showed opposition to authority (one young person I know what arrested for flipping off a cop - what a waste of resources).

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Hitler was not a leftist [View all] obamanut2012 Jan 2013 OP

The Nazi party stood it opposition to the Communists Maeve Jan 2013 #1

Thank you! obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #2

And to the Social Democrats... ellisonz Jan 2013 #5

Yes... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #176

My cousins who lived under Nazi occupation would agree with you. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2013 #3

Saw that. Lars39 Jan 2013 #4

I read it, and literally said obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #7

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #101

This is way over the top. I think there are some teabaggers who Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #115

Nazism is a far-right ideology. Socialism is a misnomer, like the Democratic Republic of Congo JaneyVee Jan 2013 #6

It was also Goebbel's propaganda... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #178

wow. Thanks for catching that obamanut2012! patrice Jan 2013 #8

Where did s/he find it? I haven't heard that meme. n/t pnwmom Jan 2013 #12

In backswoodsbob's deleted OP in GD obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #13

I tried alerting on that and someone beat me to it. nt stevenleser Jan 2013 #98

She could crosspost the link, but I'm not surprised. Lots of people don't know what patrice Jan 2013 #14

This is the referred post: ellisonz Jan 2013 #36

Wow. Why am I ever surprised at stupidity, though? pnwmom Jan 2013 #135

Poster was PPR'd. I'm glad it showed its true colors flagrantly enough for MIRT to notice. MH1 Jan 2013 #165

The meme has been all over the nutcase right kwijybo Jan 2013 #102

Guess they ditched history class . . . brush Jan 2013 #124

Most right-wingers I know, were never big on school in general. MH1 Jan 2013 #168

Welcome to DU, kwijybo! n/t pnwmom Jan 2013 #136

Thanks! kwijybo Jan 2013 #197

Tell any racist half-wit that calls Nazis leftist to check out what American brewens Jan 2013 #9

+1 obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #10

This should be a no sh*t Sherlock moment ladym55 Jan 2013 #11

I've seen this argument over and over from Teabagger types magellan Jan 2013 #15

They stole the name socialist for their party for popular appeal. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #16

True, and Bush's granddaddy Prescott helped fund the Nazi's. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #17

Jinx! obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #19

Great minds... JaneyVee Jan 2013 #21

Yep. Lots of complicity over here. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #156

AS he was with Ford, Prescott Bush, IBM obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #18

Exactly, huge private industries supported the Nazis. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #106

Yes, but NOT Krup obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #148

Correct! Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #155

Hugo Boss didn't, and they made uniforms for the SS obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #157

I certainly would have changed it. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #158

I know, because CRACKED.com did an article on them obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #171

No, Hitler was anti-capitalist. Xithras Jan 2013 #62

^^^^ ellisonz Jan 2013 #65

Then why were the Nazis in bed with large corporations? Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #105

Hitler himself once said "The basic feature of our economic theory is that we have no theory at all" Xithras Jan 2013 #133

I've read up Xithras. Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #143

Hitker was absolutely NOT anti capitalist obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #149

Keep in mind... AntiFascist Jan 2013 #179

Excellent post N/T Notafraidtoo Jan 2013 #142

No, Hitler welcomed money from bankers and industrialists, both German and international leveymg Jan 2013 #153

Tell Bob to start here: JaneyVee Jan 2013 #20

Ah, I haven't seen a Steve Kangas link in a long time. Thanks. freshwest Jan 2013 #134

Hitler and his followers and all RWers from then until today are kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #22

I blame us liberals for not hitting back against this dribble! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #23

Well yeah Turbineguy Jan 2013 #24

A handy chart showing the differences ginnyinWI Jan 2013 #25

One of the things Hitler did when he took office.... Wounded Bear Jan 2013 #26

+1 obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #27

Damn straight, Hitler is FAR FAR RIGHT, but one question: tblue Jan 2013 #28

Absolutely. TDale313 Jan 2013 #29

Matt Drudge just made himself sound like both a con-man and a drooling buffoon. Jamaal510 Jan 2013 #30

14 Signs of Fascism ErikJ Jan 2013 #31

Thanks, saved again in case I louis-t Jan 2013 #160

Hmmm I wonder which party sounds most similar to this obama2terms Jan 2013 #166

No point in me giving my opinion on this thread, because if I don't agree I will be blocked. Democratopia Jan 2013 #32

Your post calling Hitler a leftist was hidden because it was a false statement denigrating those Lars39 Jan 2013 #34

Oh well, let's all agree with the OP. No room for any other opinions here. Democratopia Jan 2013 #41

Refute with facts from a reputable source and all will be well. Lars39 Jan 2013 #44

I know, it really is simple, isn't it? obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #51

Because I am 100% right obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #46

Please learn to distinguish between FACTS and opinions. TahitiNut Jan 2013 #86

You are wrong. Just ask NeoNazis what they believe. They have webpages that explain it all. stevenleser Jan 2013 #99

You can have your own opinions, but not your own facts obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #35

We can't have a two-way discussion, because those that don't agree are censored. Democratopia Jan 2013 #42

Those who claim false right wing propaganda talking points are true are censored gollygee Jan 2013 #45

So, you still think Hitler is a Leftist obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #48

What do you want? sibelian Jan 2013 #144

Unpack this statement: ellisonz Jan 2013 #38

So you can write it and I can't? Democratopia Jan 2013 #43

Which has nothing to do with your statement that... ellisonz Jan 2013 #49

This post is full of win obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #52

I actually want to hear this poster out. ellisonz Jan 2013 #54

..... obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #58

You can give whatever opinions you like. sibelian Jan 2013 #145

Funny, this from a now banned troll. Rex Jan 2013 #167

You can blame some of this hokum on Jonah Goldberg nuxvomica Jan 2013 #33

That's where a lot of crap this came from, yes /nt War Horse Jan 2013 #174

Is there actually someone here who thinks Hitler was a leftist?... ReRe Jan 2013 #37

See Above. ellisonz Jan 2013 #39

Some people seem to get off on trying to belittle others on here. Democratopia Jan 2013 #50

You would get a lot further with either a concession... ellisonz Jan 2013 #55

Or misinformed by Republican propaganda gollygee Jan 2013 #59

Still waiting for a defense... ellisonz Jan 2013 #68

You can provide whatever defense you like. sibelian Jan 2013 #146

Not on this thread, no. Nobody can give that opinion without being banned. Democratopia Jan 2013 #47

Still waiting for those links of yours obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #53

It isn't an opinion. It is an inaccuracy. gollygee Jan 2013 #57

WE ARE GIVING YOU A CHANCE to clear up your accusations but you just want to play violin. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #63

You'll get double points if you can find us a Neo-Nazi group made up of Liberals JaneyVee Jan 2013 #64

Triple points for a Neo-Nazi group made up of Socialists. n/t gollygee Jan 2013 #66

..... obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #67

Ha! Imagine that! When I think Nazi's I think universal healthcare & equality for all! JaneyVee Jan 2013 #69

the righties also think anarchists are lefties. eom ellenfl Jan 2013 #56

Generally speaking, anarchists are lefties. earthside Jan 2013 #74

Anarchist covers a broad political scale from far-left (syndicalists) to far-right (anarcho-capitali JaneyVee Jan 2013 #80

Black bloc is a tactic not a politcal movement. Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #100

Black bloc is a tactic used by the rightwing. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #116

Hate to break it to you but the left is not not averse to smashing property to Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #120

They don't get arrested because they are law enforcement, they serve the causes of the 1% JaneyVee Jan 2013 #121

Some are but all those skinny 18-28 year old are not law enforcement but Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #122

You have no clue what you're talking about. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2013 #191

You have no clue what you're talking about. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2013 #192

Anarcho-capitalists is a contradiction. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2013 #190

american lefties don't deny the necessity of central authority. eom ellenfl Jan 2013 #159

Yeah... ReRe Jan 2013 #84

Not to argue their legitimacy either way but there is a logical fallacy built in there. TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #175

Many anarchists are... Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #89

We are leftists. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2013 #188

Hitler was very opposed to socialism and didn't want the word "socialist" to be used gollygee Jan 2013 #40

It's such an absolute no-brainer, as well as being a staple of the RW arsenal of stupidity... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #60

Just who is the "they" Niem�ller was referring to? Brother Buzz Jan 2013 #61

I am sick of being bullied by a small minority on this forum. Democratopia Jan 2013 #70

Why Why Why is Hitler a "leftist" beyond "Nazi means National Socialist" ellisonz Jan 2013 #71

You're NOT banned. That's why you're still able to leave comments. We believe in facts, truth, data, JaneyVee Jan 2013 #72

I have been accused and found guilty and banned from a thread for giving an opinion Democratopia Jan 2013 #75

Your opinion was "Hitler was a Leftist" obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #77

He was a racist psychopath, but, and now I cannot give my opinion because I will Democratopia Jan 2013 #83

lol obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #85

It appears that you are doing everything YOU can to avoid substantiating Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #90

Democracy happens. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #78

Links proving Hitler was a Leftist? obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #73

You can not be a leftest and anti labor at the same time Notafraidtoo Jan 2013 #141

If you believe the nazis were leftists, you are wrong in a way that harms modern society. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #194

Oh, fer crissakes! Teabagger, my ass. This is all crap. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #76

So, you don't think Hitler was extreme RW obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #79

They're all fascist fucks. n/t ellisonz Jan 2013 #81

Exactly obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #82

I guess you didn't read my post. Try again. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #87

I did -- I know what you wrote obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #150

But you decided to respond with inaccurate hyperbole anyway. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #151

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #88

Finally ellisonz Jan 2013 #91

Okay, you are right and I am wrong. I am ahistorical and you are not. I get it. Democratopia Jan 2013 #92

I'll accept that as a concession that you have no idea what you are talking about. n/t ellisonz Jan 2013 #94

And I'll accept your impertinence for the vulgar display that it is. Democratopia Jan 2013 #127

Enjoy Your Stay ellisonz Jan 2013 #132

. REP Jan 2013 #137

Thank the Gods for Big Government! ellisonz Jan 2013 #138

I like how he backpedaled all the way out the door. Rex Jan 2013 #180

There are big government folks left and right Maeve Jan 2013 #93

So you say big government can be given a label of left and right. What is your definition of left? Democratopia Jan 2013 #128

The left focusses on the dissolution of unnecessary class, gender and similar distinctions. sibelian Jan 2013 #147

No, you are being refuted for having no real idea what 'left' and 'right' mean Maeve Jan 2013 #152

Those things can be done because of socialism, or else because of a desire for gollygee Jan 2013 #95

Trying to figure this out... Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #97

in the same vein, neither was stalin, pol pot or mao, as i've seen claimed before. KG Jan 2013 #96

No, not in the same vein. stevenleser Jan 2013 #103

By their reasoning, the United Soviet Socialist Republic were republicans, right? nytemare Jan 2013 #104

And North Korea is a Democratic Republic NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #154

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #107

Obama smallest government spender since Eisenhower according to Forbes: Lars39 Jan 2013 #108

Sooo...the national debt hasn't risen from 10+ Trillion to $16.4 Trillion? FlyDaddy145 Jan 2013 #110

I shall call this one "Austerity Al" ellisonz Jan 2013 #111

I figured we'd run out of real names by now. Lars39 Jan 2013 #118

If your crew didn't set the house on fire we wouldn't need to spend so much repairing the damage JaneyVee Jan 2013 #117

Flydaddy, whilst I don't agree with some of what you say, including the debt which isn't the major Democratopia Jan 2013 #129

Yes, Obama has got spending under control and gets no credit for it. Most people Democratopia Jan 2013 #131

In your description of yourself ohheckyeah Jan 2013 #113

He/she says far-right is no government? Is that why they advocate for an oppressive police state? JaneyVee Jan 2013 #119

Well, no government except ohheckyeah Jan 2013 #140

Who are you to insist that other posters call themselves Democrat in their posts? Democratopia Jan 2013 #130

I didn't insist anything, now, did I? ohheckyeah Jan 2013 #139

But Jesus was. tclambert Jan 2013 #109

^^^^ ellisonz Jan 2013 #114

Jesus was a Democrat Democratopia Jan 2013 #125

Not only was Hitler not a leftist... AceWheeler Jan 2013 #112

Whenever I get into this discussion, I like to haul out this chart... Snarkoleptic Jan 2013 #123

I use the one from politicalcompass.org truebluegreen Jan 2013 #189

Agree, except for your "First Teabagger" remark. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #126

The GOP loves Psychological projection! santamargarita Jan 2013 #161

What's really sad... 99Forever Jan 2013 #162

Was thinking the same thing War Horse Jan 2013 #163

You have to realize...the braindead followers of Foxnews etc.. Rex Jan 2013 #164

he was the equivalent of a tea bagger samsingh Jan 2013 #169

I learned John2 Jan 2013 #170

Conservatives in the US are redefining right and left using Reaganesque thinking. andym Jan 2013 #172

Fascism is right wing. Authoritarian is authoritarian no matter what ideology drives it. TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #173

Something from politicalcompass.org Kennah Jan 2013 #177

It is pathetic that you even have to make this point. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #181

The Nazis started out from what were the equivalent of Rednecks... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #182

k&r nt steve2470 Jan 2013 #183

The "Nazis were leftist" canard ... Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2013 #184

If you google "hitler leftist" you'll get millions of hits NewJeffCT Jan 2013 #185

No rational person would call him a leftist Courtesy Flush Jan 2013 #186

Indeed. Hitler's policies pretty much all go against what the average progressive leftist belives in davesliberal1977_gg Jan 2013 #187

The Nazis killed 200,000 disabled people because they were expensive to feed. First teabaggers? yes. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #193

Yep. The 'Socialism' in National Socialism was faux. Like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea Taverner Jan 2013 #195

Hitler was a fascist which equated to the extreme right. Third Doctor Jan 2013 #196

Adolf Hitler was not a leftist. burnsei sensei Jan 2013 #198