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karynnj

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35. Nice wording on someone's part to get around that

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:14 AM

Jan 2012

He needed to say something - and this worked very very well - without suggesting that the Iraq war was necessary or beneficial. There will still be some who claim that NOTHING done was beneficial or that the sum of what we did made things worse, but there is no way a President could or would say that. It would be a slap in the face for our military. In addition, there was no likelihood that we would not have responded to 911.

What Obama is claiming credit for is being out of Iraq and killing OBL.

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The President did not say the Iraq war made the world safer [View all] ProSense Jan 2012 OP

This generation of heroes dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #1

Right ProSense Jan 2012 #2

I didn't question dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #9

Huh? MinervaX Jan 2012 #14

The rescue of those Iranian fisherman BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #3

Or ProSense Jan 2012 #5

And supporting the Libyan revolution. Rescuing pirate hostages. TheWraith Jan 2012 #64

That's a navy thing dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #7

I ProSense Jan 2012 #12

That was solely in response dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #15

Huh? BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #33

There is an unwritten rule / law of the sea dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #40

"Now you go find the equivalent for land troops. " BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #46

It would seem vain if the President took all credit for making the U.S. more respected sadbear Jan 2012 #34

That is a delusion. Toucano Jan 2012 #69

I doubt that "safer" is true, either, although it's a comforting delusion shared by many. n/t gkhouston Jan 2012 #63

Adjust your spin control. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #4

Find ProSense Jan 2012 #8

Seems to me that George Bush destabilized Iraq and made it a great recruiting tool emulatorloo Jan 2012 #16

You're right zipplewrath Jan 2012 #6

Pandering to militarist hooey with an escape hatch. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #28

Precisely. n/t Toucano Jan 2012 #70

I agree - and admire the wordsmith that did it so well karynnj Jan 2012 #37

I don't zipplewrath Jan 2012 #39

That's a toughy. A paragraph about welcoming home our last troops in Iraq mmonk Jan 2012 #10

I interpreted it as America is now safer and better respected for having left Iraq. Scuba Jan 2012 #11

100% correct malaise Jan 2012 #13

Ahem, bullshit. He said precisely that. Bonobo Jan 2012 #17

Ahem ProSense Jan 2012 #18

Web at least agree that it's very clear from the precise text. Bonobo Jan 2012 #19

What? ProSense Jan 2012 #22

So then how was the US made safer according to the statement? Bonobo Jan 2012 #27

Here, ProSense Jan 2012 #30

Tortured logic. Ugh. nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #31

You ProSense Jan 2012 #38

You deserve a freaking medal. Your patience for dealing with certain people here, is simply legend. Number23 Jan 2012 #67

They've done a lot more than just fight in Iraq ecstatic Jan 2012 #42

well, we all know you'd want him to say how evil america is and how much we suck... dionysus Jan 2012 #47

I'm choosing not to believe people who make up stuff out of the blue uponit7771 Jan 2012 #51

Yes he did, but war = peace around here. donheld Jan 2012 #71

If that above statement is his exact quote then, FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #20

Some day you might figure out there are cases when your spin is pointless. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #21

Yes ProSense Jan 2012 #23

Very curious NNN0LHI Jan 2012 #24

Safer, schmafer. Hairsplitting can't hide the perverse apologetics. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #25

Even ProSense Jan 2012 #26

oooh, perverse... how biting... dionysus Jan 2012 #52

are you daft enough to suggest he spend the state of the union explaining everything that's wrong dionysus Jan 2012 #48

So how, exactly, has "this generation of heroes made the United States safer"? Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #29

Oh ProSense Jan 2012 #32

So the way that "this generation of heroes made the United States safer" was to come home from Iraq. Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #36

Nice wording on someone's part to get around that karynnj Jan 2012 #35

Right. kentuck Jan 2012 #41

No ProSense Jan 2012 #43

Are we to assume he wasn't talking about Iraq? kentuck Jan 2012 #55

Thanks ProSense. Scurrilous Jan 2012 #44

I didn't take it the way some did Broderick Jan 2012 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author dionysus Jan 2012 #49

some people honestly think he should have spent what is basically a national pep rally, to declare dionysus Jan 2012 #50

Pretty much. Not only was this a National Pep Rally, it was the kickoff for his campaign. renie408 Jan 2012 #54

LOL Broderick Jan 2012 #57

That is an extremely athletic tip toe around the subjects he didn't want to take credit for. renie408 Jan 2012 #53

Wow, you stretch anything to meet your goal. It is actually entertaining. Lawyer? Logical Jan 2012 #56

Thanks, ProSense, I thought he was talking about the troops and NOT... Spazito Jan 2012 #58

Being able to win a point in court is not the same as telling the truth. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #59

Wow. Well said! +1,000! nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #66

Good God... Number23 Jan 2012 #68

It was a subliminal attribution something along the lines of using 9/11 and Saddam Hussein in the Uncle Joe Jan 2012 #60

Maybe he should have been clearer loyalsister Jan 2012 #61

of course he didn't but the Obama 'dislikers' will insist he did. WI_DEM Jan 2012 #62

Depends on what the definition of the word "is" is, right? bvar22 Jan 2012 #65