To our friends who claim they need guns to protect them from the Government

[Kelvin Mace]

115. The difference between what you view

as a "true" police state and the U.S. is simply a matter of degree.

That will come with time.

Let me address some of the "freedoms" of which you speak:

You are free to run for office.

And if you have the millions of dollars that it takes to get elected on a Federal level, you might actually get into office. You can, of course, run at the state level, but since as it is the Bill of Rights that has been voided, and since the states are cooperating with the legal fictions, what would be the point?

You are free to voice your opinions far and wide, and loud and clear. You are free to criticize your evil old government in public and private venues alike.

Unless you try to actually do it in an effective manner that gets people's attention, in which case you will find yourself labeled a terrorist, beaten, pepper-sprayed, and incarcerated (See the Occupy Movement for examples).

You are free to vote and campaign for the candidate of your choice.

You are free to choose between the two lackeys who have already been bought and paid for by the corporate interests that run the country.

As to my arguments being "bullshit", did someone revoke the Patriot Act while I wasn't looking? Or was there an armed insurrection I somehow missed?

If the act is still the law and we haven't had a rebellion, then yes, we VOLUNTARILY surrendered our freedoms in exchange for... something, I have no clue what it is.

Contrary to the NRA and Gungeon propaganda, Democrats are not coming for your guns.

Where did I ever say they were? I explicitly stated that the only rights that have NOT been violated were the 2nd and 3rd Amendment. The point I was making is that the government became a police state while letting people keep all the guns they could eat. Gun are ZERO threat to the government, so there is no compelling reason for them to be seized.

Also, what the Hell does marijuana consumption have to do with this discussion? For the record, while I do not object to marijuana use, I have never used it, nor any other illicit drug in my entire life.