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In reply to the discussion: An explanation, from a gun nut. [View all]DanTex
(20,709 posts)68. Wow, a bunch of fabricated statistics! The NRA has trained you well.
Even if we were to accept these numbers, what they illustrate is that even though the US is, as a whole, less violent than the UK, there is still far more homicide, because of the guns.
Of course, the UK is not the only developed country other than the US, if you look at violent crime rates in other developed nation, you find that the US is somewhere in the middle. It's only homicide where we are way out of the normal range. The other thing is that comparing "violent crime" rates internationally is not always an apples-to-apples comparison, because different countries define it differently.
Approximately 200,000 women in the United States use guns to protect themselves against sexual crime every single year.
This is false. The total number of defensive gun uses in the US is about 100,000, as per the National Crime Victimization Survey.
Down in Australia, gun murders increased by about 19 percent and armed robberies increased by about 69 percent after a gun ban was instituted.
This is false. Homicide rates dropped since the gun ban in Australia.
I have no idea where you are getting these numbers...
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Your concern is noted. Please feel free to share more of your concerns, and enjoy your stay. nt
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#2
Actually, violent crime rates in other wealthy nations are similar to those in the US.
DanTex
Jan 2013
#50
LOL. Gun Owners of America! The place to turn when the NRA just isn't batshit crazy enough!
DanTex
Jan 2013
#77
I would suggest not distinguishing between rifles and handguns, or even semis for that matter.
jmg257
Jan 2013
#57
Its a fucking school, it SHOULD be a gun free zone. Jeez, the morons are out of their cages.
JaneyVee
Jan 2013
#32
I go to sleep every night thankful my kid is in a school protected by a guy with a gun.
bucky balls
Jan 2013
#100
News flash! When some son-of-a-bitch kills 20+ children in a school, that is an act of terrorism.
Buzz Clik
Jan 2013
#31
"because they can't find ONE (1) single terrorist in this whole fucking country!"
ellisonz
Jan 2013
#35
yeah, i realized after I posted that he was banned...I and you are correct..
ceejdre82
Jan 2013
#116
I'm a member of the gun owning community and the most complaining I'm hearing
Lint Head
Jan 2013
#39
Is it just me or does there seem to be alot more "gun nuts" joining DU lately?
rightsideout
Jan 2013
#61
I think the point is well made about going after the wrong gun. Handguns have not been a big
maggiesfarmer
Jan 2013
#85
"We have federal agents going around putting fake explosives into peoples' hands"
ceejdre82
Jan 2013
#108
Another lemming tries to climb the ladder of sanity, only to fall crashing down
DainBramaged
Jan 2013
#119
I'm just going to address your third and fourth paragraphs and let someone else deal with your
Chorophyll
Jan 2013
#122