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In reply to the discussion: Koch Brothers behind push to raise Social Security retirement age (UPDATE: Nazi connection) [View all]HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)The American Kochs came to TX from the Netherlands in the 1880s:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Koch_%28businessman%29
Karl Koch (Ilse's husband) was born in darmstadt near frankfurt. erich koch was born about 300km away in wuppertal near dusseldorft. Having the same name doesn't make them relatives, and there's no evidence they were. There's also no evidence that Erich Koch had anything to do with oil sales in Nazi Germany.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Otto_Koch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Koch
There's also an obvious factual error in that article:
"After the fall of Nazi Germany, Erich Koch and Fred expand the oil empire to the Soviet Union."
Wrong: Fred Koch's Soviet business was *before* WW2, not after:
Koch turned his focus to foreign markets, including the Soviet Union, where Winkler-Koch built 15 cracking units between 1929 and 1932.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_C._Koch
Fred Koch offered to build oil refineries in the Soviet Union that would be more efficient than those in the West. The young engineer's ideas were welcomed, and he was awarded a large contract to coincide with Stalin's first five-year plan, beginning in 1929. The contract called for construction of 15 refineries for an initial fee of $5 million, from which Koch and his partner, L. E. Winkler, are said to have netted a $500,000 profit. Koch's work in the Soviet Union necessitated sojourns in that country, offering the Texas farmboy an intimate look at the Soviet system while providing the cash he would later need in building his U.S. empire.
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/koch-industries-inc-history/
There's no evidence that Fred Koch was related to Ilse Koch, no evidence he did anything with "Erich Koch," no evidence that Erich Koch was any relation of Ilse's, no evidence that the Kochs did any business with the Nazis -- & none is offered in that article. It's all smear & innuendo.
"They're all Kochs, they *must be* related!"
The Kochs are creeps, but not because they're related to Ilse Koch.