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patrice

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35. The only way this graphic makes sense is if Freedom has one & ONLY one essential trait,

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:57 AM

Jan 2013

no external control, because that's the only trait Freedom would share with Serfdom (and, thus, be different segments on the same continuum/line, curved or otherwise), so I'm not at all certain that you and I share the same definition of Freedom.

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Far-left politics [View all] snooper2 Jan 2013 OP

I've seen example of people Confusious Jan 2013 #1

Is your OP in support of this graphic you used a little while ago? Fumesucker Jan 2013 #2

That's a pretty fucked up graphic right there. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #6

in the same theme yep...I don't agree with Objectivists or Libertarians at the top under "Freedom" snooper2 Jan 2013 #10

I've heard the term "politically correct" a great deal, usually from the right Fumesucker Jan 2013 #12

This one is better (Nadir point) snooper2 Jan 2013 #15

Too late for that Fumesucker Jan 2013 #19

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL snooper2 Jan 2013 #20

OMC? Is that you? Fumesucker Jan 2013 #22

mmm... G_j Jan 2013 #31

If you are going to call me anybody at least make it someone good snooper2 Jan 2013 #33

Whatever his faults may have been Random Thoughts wasn't a Libertarian Objectivist Fumesucker Jan 2013 #36

Random Thoughts was sweet and funny Hatchling Jan 2013 #65

I'm sweet and funny! snooper2 Jan 2013 #66

Not quite OMC's level of fuckery, I think. Close, "but no cigar." nt patrice Jan 2013 #53

And in record time whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #23

I can't escape I'm a trappy! LOL snooper2 Jan 2013 #30

I think it's idiotic whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #39

Is it idiotic because nobody who claims to be "super far left" snooper2 Jan 2013 #41

If the "super far left" and "super far right" are the same whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #44

Because they are not 100% the same, so that even a small "amount" of difference evokes patrice Jan 2013 #48

Right... whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #50

Agendas are abstractions. I prefer to talk about how people act, how they treat others as more or patrice Jan 2013 #58

It's not just the left and the right that use that sort of language Fumesucker Jan 2013 #59

It's stupid, wherever it comes from. Some of it is talking-point robots, some of it is just newbies patrice Jan 2013 #61

The effect is all very cliquey & clique driven & I don't care what labels you hang on those cliques patrice Jan 2013 #62

You were hanging labels yourself just a couple of posts back Fumesucker Jan 2013 #63

The brew needs a bottle, so bottles are useful as long as you don't drink them. I'm just advocating patrice Jan 2013 #64

And I was beginning to think whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #13

out myself as what? snooper2 Jan 2013 #16

Socialism is serfdom? Starry Messenger Jan 2013 #11

The only way this graphic makes sense is if Freedom has one & ONLY one essential trait, patrice Jan 2013 #35

A point of clarification Fumesucker Jan 2013 #40

I suspect that the concept of Freedom used in this graphic is too reactionary for me, which would patrice Jan 2013 #45

That same theory would suggest "centrist" Democrats have more in common with "centrist" Romulox Jan 2013 #3

They only resemble one another in their fervor and in much of the idiocy both extremes exhibit RomneyLies Jan 2013 #4

+1 patrice Jan 2013 #21

That sounds about right n/t union_maid Jan 2013 #52

Would this apply to people who swear the world is flat, G_j Jan 2013 #5

How can one not be reminded of: "'No Labels': We’re not centrist anymore, promise!" Romulox Jan 2013 #7

More of the Ralph Nader bullspit. Nader threw the election to the repubs & reaped millions in pocket graham4anything Jan 2013 #8

Please provide a policy example of "far-left politics" whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #9

A desire for the US to withdraw from its commitments to international organizations (the UN and WTO pampango Jan 2013 #42

Sounds like nonsense to me whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #47

The comparison between so-called "leftwing" Corporatists and their rightwing analogues Romulox Jan 2013 #57

Comforting theory for those who would maintain status quo. nt hay rick Jan 2013 #14

If means and ends are equally important, Left & Right are more alike than different, because they patrice Jan 2013 #17

American politics is really a pretzel. leveymg Jan 2013 #18

I guess everybody ought to be moderate politically so they could be different underneath. nt bemildred Jan 2013 #24

That's too often an abused and, hence, mischaracterized and under-rated position, I think that patrice Jan 2013 #56

In the 60s the saying was "do your own thing". bemildred Jan 2013 #72

I think Its True on Some Single Issues NeedleCast Jan 2013 #25

Fanaticism as in whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #29

Fanaticism as the word is defined NeedleCast Jan 2013 #49

So centrists don't seek control? whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #51

I Edit my above post to add an example NeedleCast Jan 2013 #55

I agree that the actual far left probably has a lot in common with the far right el_bryanto Jan 2013 #26

Only according to stupid, primitive black-and-wite thinking. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #27

uh, yeah, Jean-Pierre Faye snooper2 Jan 2013 #32

Sigh. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #34

So where do you put truthers and birthers on the political spectrum? snooper2 Jan 2013 #38

Where would you now put those who believe there were no WMDs in Iraq? Fumesucker Jan 2013 #43

I don't think you can define somebody by their thoughts on one specific issue snooper2 Jan 2013 #46

You mean, like you just did with post 38? 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #67

well that's a little different, I'll try to explain to you... snooper2 Jan 2013 #68

Was that supposed to MEAN something? 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #69

you ever post more than six words at a time? snooper2 Jan 2013 #71

No, it's bullshit. bowens43 Jan 2013 #28

Yes, you see do some overlap on some issues. SpartanDem Jan 2013 #37

I think it's an oversimplification viewing politics on a straight line Bradical79 Jan 2013 #54

I agree. It needs to be someting more like a sphere, though it may not be regular in shape. nt patrice Jan 2013 #60

To get that picture in the OP to display... Make7 Jan 2013 #70

It's better than a straight line because it weights for extremeness, which, though it may be patrice Jan 2013 #73