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BlueCaliDem

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Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:15 PM

Jan 2013

I'm not looking for 100% perfection by any president because that's not possible, but I understand the political realities. I'll disagree with a LOT of things he has to do, but I refuse to attack him on a daily basis while completely ignoring that he has a GOP House to contend with. Some people believe being the president is equal to being a dictator. I guess they didn't learn about politics until Duhbya.

I don't understand how some "DUers" here seem to believe that this president has to be the numbero uno ultra-Liberal president of all time, and if he so much as stumbles once, he's immediately labeled a Republican and excoriated.

Having someone's back doesn't mean you agree 100% with them. I'm sure the president could find fault in all of us, too. Nobody's perfect and I'm sick and tired of Liberal/Libertarians attacking him for every tiny thing. I'm pretty damn sure they didn't even vote for him even though they'll scream from the rooftops they had.

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I'm Sorry... But I Gotta Ask... People Here Keep Saying We Have To Have The President's Back... [View all] WillyT Jan 2013 OP

He had me since hello. And still does. And will 100 years from now. graham4anything Jan 2013 #1

No matter what you are ... dawg Jan 2013 #4

Well said dawg. Well said! n/t sheshe2 Jan 2013 #18

Badfinger ??? WillyT Jan 2013 #21

Me, too, Graham. narnian60 Jan 2013 #5

+ 1000! sheshe2 Jan 2013 #16

+1 Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #24

you sound like a stalker Skittles Jan 2013 #39

Bless your tiny little heart. n/t JTFrog Jan 2013 #197

tiny? Skittles Jan 2013 #259

One person's sad sam, progressoid Jan 2013 #47

^^^that^^^ BlueNoteSpecial Jan 2013 #235

He had you at hello. How quaint, how cute, how sad. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #74

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - And Thank You !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #76

Thank you for the OP. Keep em coming. nm rhett o rick Jan 2013 #78

times a zillion rhett o rick and OP roguevalley Jan 2013 #105

... Phlem Jan 2013 #80

+1000000 truebluegreen Jan 2013 #87

just let the man handle it, he knows all, sees all, i trust him, bla bla HiPointDem Jan 2013 #91

No one is saying that but you. randome Jan 2013 #93

actually, many people on this forum have said it (except for 'sees all') HiPointDem Jan 2013 #101

Are you implying that the POTUS Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #128

In democracies, it doesn't matter that the President has information we don't have; we are still HiPointDem Jan 2013 #132

I think you might have covered two logical fallacies. Putting words in someone's mouth rhett o rick Jan 2013 #150

Nice post. I think everyone recognizes we won't get all we want. A Simple Game Jan 2013 #227

When they have nothing they Cha Jan 2013 #293

Actually, I DO trust him. Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #123

my problem isn't with you trusting him, it's with you trying to shut down criticism from others HiPointDem Jan 2013 #137

Bull crap!.....you easily are in the category of shutting down positive discussions re: Obama. Sheepshank Jan 2013 #207

He does a great deal of "speaking out"... sendero Jan 2013 #175

+1000 Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #94

Add me to the list of what you said. RC Jan 2013 #134

It's pretty sickening Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #139

"Blind worship isnt in the Democratic nature." dorkulon Jan 2013 #145

Nuff said. nt raouldukelives Jan 2013 #195

Absolutely correct. Hero worship is over dotymed Jan 2013 #217

Rick slow down BrainMann1 Jan 2013 #251

Bless you for telling me to "slow down". I havent heard that in decades. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #253

THANK YOU Skittles Jan 2013 #260

oh please heaven05 Jan 2013 #279

Lol, and you are what is caled a 'blind supporter' Logical Jan 2013 #104

Jury Decision on this post 1-5 to keep ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #199

PP, how do you find the results of an alert reflection Jan 2013 #211

Only the jurors gets the results directly every time ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #243

Thanks! reflection Jan 2013 #294

Wow, that was alerted! n-t Logical Jan 2013 #226

Wow it's sad that this post was alerted on. pam4water Jan 2013 #246

The juries are a popularity contest - if you're popular you can say shit. If not, you get hidden. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #283

You're a "cut and runner", now there's a neo-con meme I ain't heard in a while!!!! grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #109

+1 pam4water Jan 2013 #247

Right? Who says "cut and run" but the far right????? grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #270

Don't forget, "I server at the presidents pleasure." XD pam4water Jan 2013 #275

Just fetching JReed Jan 2013 #154

so this is how you see Obama? Enrique Jan 2013 #205

LOL! nt laundry_queen Jan 2013 #238

Bawhahaha +1 pam4water Jan 2013 #252

He always had our back. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #2

What you said. All of it. Hekate Jan 2013 #6

This congress should just be sent home as unfit to serve. It would be a tremendous cost RKP5637 Jan 2013 #108

All the GOP in the House, at any rate, and they are the majority. Hekate Jan 2013 #117

Yep, that sure would be a good place to start!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #131

The House led by Newt Gingrich wasn't so wonderful Art_from_Ark Jan 2013 #161

As far as I am concerned, Newt started it, wrote the playbook ... Hekate Jan 2013 #229

I had so much hope when Clinton was elected Art_from_Ark Jan 2013 #286

I felt the same. nt Hekate Jan 2013 #288

A newt is a slimy lizard Art_from_Ark Jan 2013 #289

K&R Absolutely. Skidmore Jan 2013 #8

Right on. The president needs us to have his back more than ever Politicub Jan 2013 #9

i don't recall him asking voters to get his back. i recall him asking something different of us. HiPointDem Jan 2013 #95

I have his back...because he has Ours! He always will! sheshe2 Jan 2013 #20

very true sad-cafe Jan 2013 #26

+1 freshwest Jan 2013 #224

Well said! greatauntoftriplets Jan 2013 #30

Oh but, now you're talking the reality of the situation.. Cha Jan 2013 #142

nothing but excuses....sorry that doesn't cut it anymore bowens43 Jan 2013 #181

"nothing but excuses....sorry that doesn't cut it anymore" NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #200

Actually, he had the torture's backs zipplewrath Jan 2013 #220

True that! pam4water Jan 2013 #256

What would you like him to do? ellisonz Jan 2013 #3

Let The Intelligence Oversight Committee Do It's Job... WillyT Jan 2013 #15

Lead on climate change pscot Jan 2013 #23

THANK YOU !!! - Forgot To Put That In My Post... WillyT Jan 2013 #27

"especially the one's that kill women, children, and wedding parties..." ellisonz Jan 2013 #48

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Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #62

Well... At Least I Don't Believe In "The Ends Justify The Means" WillyT Jan 2013 #66

I prefer to choose my ends. ellisonz Jan 2013 #67

Yeah... Women, Children, And Wedding Parties... WillyT Jan 2013 #72

I voted for the lesser of two evils, IMO, both corporatist. dotymed Jan 2013 #297

"...the people he is trying to kill...are horrid people who have killed and truth2power Jan 2013 #77

If you believe this information to be faulty... ellisonz Jan 2013 #82

I think you should read that whole article more closely. It's a mish-mash truth2power Jan 2013 #298

Gerrymandering is all that is needed to prevent Dems from NorthCarolina Jan 2013 #225

Fix health care like he promised he would if we passed Obamacare crapsurance!!!!!!! grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #111

Homework Assignment for You: How many votes did "Obamacare crapsurance" pass by in both houses. ellisonz Jan 2013 #112

Obama said, ""If a mandate was the solution, we could try that to solve homelessness by mandating grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #183

Since nobody had his back last term RomneyLies Jan 2013 #7

Great point.. bama_blue_dot Jan 2013 #185

Right. That's why we re-elected him, cuz we didn't have his back. grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #186

He was re-elected DESPITE the fact that the whiny Left/Libertarians infesting this site BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #231

Take the progressive vote out of the equation and he lost. Fact is most of the issues grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #239

I'm a progressive. I have long given up calling myself a Liberal after FiredogLake and DKos BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #248

Interesting grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #267

K&R. MotherPetrie Jan 2013 #10

Unfortunately, he has the MIC's back. Vattel Jan 2013 #11

I have his back. Terra Alta Jan 2013 #12

+ 1000 BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #234

I don't know your story, but the president has all of our backs Politicub Jan 2013 #13

OK... I'll Bite... The President Also Has The 14th Amendment, And (I Guess) The Trillion Dollar Coin WillyT Jan 2013 #19

The obstruction goes beyond the budget Politicub Jan 2013 #31

What's the long view for the Patriot Act, indefinate detention and domestic surveillance? rhett o rick Jan 2013 #250

I'm not sure, but neither of those things diminish my support for the president Politicub Jan 2013 #280

You try to twist disagreement with specific issues into "bashing". rhett o rick Jan 2013 #284

Then go on with your more genuine support Politicub Jan 2013 #285

Just stand up for your beliefs and let me stand up for mine. nm rhett o rick Jan 2013 #287

So you're both a constitutional and economics expert now? Geeze. randome Jan 2013 #75

no, he's a citizen with an opinion, just like you. There's no analogy between computer programming HiPointDem Jan 2013 #136

this sad-cafe Jan 2013 #29

Thanks Politicalcub nm Cha Jan 2013 #35

Beautifully, perfectly said. Especially the bit imploring the OP to "educate himself" Number23 Jan 2013 #130

He has and does and will, imo. (aside) There are 3 branches of government, as you know. pinto Jan 2013 #14

Yes it is high time. alarimer Jan 2013 #17

You're not alone. amandabeech Jan 2013 #262

WillyT, after four months of DU spitting venom at the newly elected president... Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #22

Like I Said... He Asked Us To Hold His Feet To The Fire... To "Push" Him... WillyT Jan 2013 #25

Well, you didn't say that in the OP, but go for it. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #32

His Feet Aren't Here (on DU) To Be Held To The Fire Amonester Jan 2013 #65

... Cha Jan 2013 #144

Finally, seeing the OP for what it is. Sheepshank Jan 2013 #210

Now you are trying to have it both ways treestar Jan 2013 #113

+1000 CakeGrrl Jan 2013 #125

That's the basic point. What kind of world do people live in where one kicks and screams at patrice Jan 2013 #119

PBO does have my Back ..that's WHY I Cha Jan 2013 #28

I totally agree. sad-cafe Jan 2013 #33

"Cheerleader!" sheshe2 Jan 2013 #43

But, Cha Jan 2013 #138

I accept, Cha...but it looks like we will have to fight the fight, along with cheerleading... sheshe2 Jan 2013 #141

"corrupt"? ... Cha Jan 2013 #143

Holding public servants accountable is the responsibility of the people. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #34

THANK YOU !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #36

So, I am corrupt, since I support my President! sheshe2 Jan 2013 #44

Don't know about you personally but yes, truebluegreen Jan 2013 #83

The only Corrupt people that I know of is the GOP. sheshe2 Jan 2013 #118

They like to use those nasty words that describe republicons Cha Jan 2013 #148

That they do...A**HOLES! sheshe2 Jan 2013 #162

Really? HangOnKids Jan 2013 #171

My, my. Did I strike a nerve? truebluegreen Jan 2013 #153

Did you strike a nerve...sure. You just accused me of being corrupt...ie: a criminal! Really? sheshe2 Jan 2013 #159

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jan 2013 #169

You got a Cha Jan 2013 #174

Poor thing. truebluegreen Jan 2013 #202

Already with the ignore? Sheepshank Jan 2013 #209

She will be a lot better off. Cha Jan 2013 #292

Is he not a public servant and accountable? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #155

+1 forestpath Jan 2013 #50

+1 HiPointDem Jan 2013 #97

Yes, and it's bizarre too. UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #149

Are you really implying that the Obama supporters on DU are like Sheepshank Jan 2013 #214

No. UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #216

and yet the thread here is saying DUs practice blind obedience Sheepshank Jan 2013 #221

+1 pam4water Jan 2013 #255

How CAN he have OUR back if we don't have his? The GOP is trying to erode his support and turn his okaawhatever Jan 2013 #37

Don't worry, the GOP will probably try to impeach him jberryhill Jan 2013 #38

That's Really Interesting... Since I Voted For Him... WillyT Jan 2013 #40

We support him...he supports us, yes. And he is. So, what's your point? I don't get it. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #41

And Apparently... You Never Will... WillyT Jan 2013 #42

You don't have to have been here very long Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #51

Do You Think The Constitution Of The United States Is Still Valid ??? WillyT Jan 2013 #55

Do you think that your constant whining Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #57

That's Me... Always "Whining" About The U.S. Constitution And Violations Of Oaths And Laws... WillyT Jan 2013 #60

No. That's you Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #71

Please... Do Not Lower Yourself To Pretend To Know Me Or My Motivations... WillyT Jan 2013 #73

I am assuming that the phrase Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #88

Oh, You Old War Horse You... Ya Got Me... WillyT Jan 2013 #96

I'll take that to mean Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #99

And I Am So Glad You Are Amused... And Glad I Could Bring Some Joy Into Your Life... WillyT Jan 2013 #103

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #107

AHHH the empty comeback. Replacing actual information with sarcasm. Sheepshank Jan 2013 #213

The operative word being "us." Not "me." "Us," as in the American citizens. Not Democrats, Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #192

+1 sheshe2 Jan 2013 #198

HA! I thought I was the only one who noticed...have been noticing for some time n/t Sheepshank Jan 2013 #212

and heaven05 Jan 2013 #265

You mean like the 2nd Amendment? You're ticked off at gun control? nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #191

I don't know what this particular poster's complaints are. There are many complaints Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #190

That's a weak way to criticize Obama. No, I don't know what your complaints are. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #188

He's had our backs from day one of his first term Summer Hathaway Jan 2013 #45

No matter what the ODSers say or do, I will NEVER turn my back on this president! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #46

K&R forestpath Jan 2013 #49

Yes. Especially children, teachers, workers and seniors. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #53

He certainly had the autoworkers back in Michigan and Ohio bluestateguy Jan 2013 #54

Good Point... What About Those Comfortable Shoes... Walking With Labor In Wisconsin ??? WillyT Jan 2013 #56

I don't know what you are talking about bluestateguy Jan 2013 #59

From 2007... WillyT Jan 2013 #64

Hmmm...<crickets> truebluegreen Jan 2013 #92

So, basically, because he hasn't been able to do everything, he's not had our backs... Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #179

+1000!!! sheshe2 Jan 2013 #269

I don't want the Prez, whoever he/she may be, getting involved in state politics. Not his job. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #194

the autoworkers who now work for $11-14/hour instead of $26-30? HiPointDem Jan 2013 #100

HiPointDem, in the 1980s experienced workers made 20 an hour Mimosa Jan 2013 #165

Many people have learned from life that relationships need reciprocity & Have functioned under that patrice Jan 2013 #58

1 man, and 300 milion people sitting on their lazy asses, doing essentially nothing. liberalmuse Jan 2013 #61

A lot of people are out working as hard as they can... BlueCheese Jan 2013 #69

NO. Obviously you don't understand what it means NashvilleLefty Jan 2013 #63

I really can't stand cults of personality. BlueCheese Jan 2013 #68

Thank You For That !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #70

The assumption that anyone who supports this President is engaging in a cult of personality is patrice Jan 2013 #90

It would be insulting... BlueCheese Jan 2013 #164

"our" expectations? treestar Jan 2013 #124

And offering a chained CPI to the republicans when SS has Autumn Jan 2013 #133

+1 forestpath Jan 2013 #189

I really can't stand those who accuse others of having "cults of personality" Cha Jan 2013 #140

Are you saying there aren't cults of personality around politicians? BlueCheese Jan 2013 #166

WELL SAID + 1MILLION humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #79

He should but we aren't the ones he has to answer to. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #81

Ain't That The Truth WillyT Jan 2013 #86

+ My household. n/t truedelphi Jan 2013 #89

How do you describe "our" back treestar Jan 2013 #84

We also were pissed because we knew bu$h was a Fraud, a silver spoon... Amonester Jan 2013 #129

apparently not hfojvt Jan 2013 #85

President Barack Hussein Obama knows things you do not know, negative nellies & willyT. hopemountain Jan 2013 #98

The fan clubbing in this thread is downright embarrassing. Marr Jan 2013 #102

We must assume some are paid trolls. grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #114

I'm really sick of this "paid shills" notion. dorkulon Jan 2013 #147

20 Habits of Paid Trolls: grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #228

1 way to avoid having to back up your arguments: dorkulon Jan 2013 #242

Well, I have to agree with you there! grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #244

So you think there is something wrong, ipso facto, with supporting treestar Jan 2013 #115

I think there's something wrong with "having the back" of a politician-- yes. Marr Jan 2013 #120

well who are they? treestar Jan 2013 #122

Bullshit. Marr Jan 2013 #126

That sounds about right. Hekate Jan 2013 #121

When a post starts out, "So you think...." you know it has to be a logical fallacy. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #206

Speaking of Bernie Sanders, his appointments would likely have been very different. amandabeech Jan 2013 #266

Appointing conservatives cant lead to goodness. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #271

Yup. amandabeech Jan 2013 #273

Not as embarrassing as the freeperlike attacks on a sitting Democratic President. JTFrog Jan 2013 #201

When the sitting Democratic President acts like a Republican I would hope he gets criticism. Dawgs Jan 2013 #236

It is time he has ours DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #106

yes samsingh Jan 2013 #110

Yes! YES! 840high Jan 2013 #116

I trust the president to have our back. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #127

Threads like this do NOTHING but pollute this web site Number23 Jan 2013 #135

But, but, but, Cha Jan 2013 #151

"Big shit stirring thread." And that's all it is Number23 Jan 2013 #156

Whoops. Just saw that the OP, after high-fiving every single post in this thread that shit on the Number23 Jan 2013 #157

Exactly.. start shit and get brought down Cha Jan 2013 #160

I always thought JReed Jan 2013 #146

He has my back. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #152

Indeed it is Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2013 #158

I thought he was supposed to have our backs Mimosa Jan 2013 #163

K&R, it is long past time for Obama to start championing liberal causes quinnox Jan 2013 #167

You make an excellent point 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #168

lots of anger WillyT looks like you struck a nerve Kingwithnothrone Jan 2013 #170

Nicely said. Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #176

Well.... sendero Jan 2013 #178

"throw the chum in the water" JTFrog Jan 2013 #203

We haven't forgotten the whiny Left that ensured that enough people BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #232

If Democrats can't get the voters to vote for them JAbuchan08 Jan 2013 #276

yay! another shit-stirring thread scheming daemons Jan 2013 #172

du rec. nt xchrom Jan 2013 #173

I'll support him when he fights for me. I'm still waiting. Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #177

I agree with you completely. He has sold us out several times. bowens43 Jan 2013 #180

You are way too appreciative of those who share your opinions. great white snark Jan 2013 #182

Bingo Bobbie Jo Jan 2013 #187

Noticed that too, huh? While all the while, WillyT's cheering squad bemoans the President's Number23 Jan 2013 #249

I'd be happy if we had each other's back lunatica Jan 2013 #184

Obama hates us. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #193

/facepalm JTFrog Jan 2013 #196

I hate to disagree with you fadedrose Jan 2013 #204

Oh it's you again..... Sheepshank Jan 2013 #208

Thanks For Kicking Willy's Thread HangOnKids Jan 2013 #215

YUP...everyone needs to get a handle on Willi and his cheer club. n/t Sheepshank Jan 2013 #218

lol.. you're right. Here's another kick. Cha Jan 2013 #254

Great post, WillyT.....let's see how the ides of March turns out.....nft plethoro Jan 2013 #219

Yup. another_liberal Jan 2013 #222

Treason!!! Blasphemy!! Heretic!!! Zorra Jan 2013 #223

no heaven05 Jan 2013 #264

Obama does have your back. It's the republican't part of Congress that's screwing us. Now they want judesedit Jan 2013 #230

Did the republican congress pick all of those Wall Street guys for his administration? Dawgs Jan 2013 #237

Indeed, those choices were his and his alone Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2013 #241

your heaven05 Jan 2013 #233

What is his plan for the sequester? grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #240

and heaven05 Jan 2013 #261

he releases his plans at the last minute and uses the time-crunch as an excuse to bow to neocons grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #268

he heaven05 Jan 2013 #277

! grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #290

K&R pam4water Jan 2013 #245

Sigh.... warrprayer Jan 2013 #257

I thought he did and does. Maybe I missed something. nt kstewart33 Jan 2013 #258

He does have our back.... PennsylvaniaMatt Jan 2013 #263

We elected John2 Jan 2013 #272

How profound. babylonsister Jan 2013 #274

VP Biden has the President's Back as do WE The People, babylonsistah.. Cha Jan 2013 #291

Just curious, but how many of your 43,000+ posts have been rants against the President?.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #278

I'm sorry I got here late WillyT. I wish I had been around to have your back... Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #281

K&R woo me with science Jan 2013 #282

Kick woo me with science Jan 2013 #295

Hey, ProSense Jan 2013 #296

The President has nominated a republican for the post of Secretary of Defense, Zorra Jan 2013 #299

Kerry is a Republican? ProSense Jan 2013 #300

Whoops, thanks. Corrected. Anyway, so what if the neocons Zorra Jan 2013 #302

You know what makes me puke: ProSense Jan 2013 #301

Consider the possibility that someone having the audacity to question the President Zorra Jan 2013 #303

Oooh, ProSense Jan 2013 #304