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Broderick

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45. I didn't take it the way some did

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:42 PM

Jan 2012

I took it more as a whole picture of how American influence hasn't waned, and how our respect in the world has grown with him as president. As a whole, that is what I gathered from the speech concerning this issue.

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The President did not say the Iraq war made the world safer [View all] ProSense Jan 2012 OP

This generation of heroes dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #1

Right ProSense Jan 2012 #2

I didn't question dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #9

Huh? MinervaX Jan 2012 #14

The rescue of those Iranian fisherman BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #3

Or ProSense Jan 2012 #5

And supporting the Libyan revolution. Rescuing pirate hostages. TheWraith Jan 2012 #64

That's a navy thing dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #7

I ProSense Jan 2012 #12

That was solely in response dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #15

Huh? BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #33

There is an unwritten rule / law of the sea dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #40

"Now you go find the equivalent for land troops. " BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #46

It would seem vain if the President took all credit for making the U.S. more respected sadbear Jan 2012 #34

That is a delusion. Toucano Jan 2012 #69

I doubt that "safer" is true, either, although it's a comforting delusion shared by many. n/t gkhouston Jan 2012 #63

Adjust your spin control. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #4

Find ProSense Jan 2012 #8

Seems to me that George Bush destabilized Iraq and made it a great recruiting tool emulatorloo Jan 2012 #16

You're right zipplewrath Jan 2012 #6

Pandering to militarist hooey with an escape hatch. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #28

Precisely. n/t Toucano Jan 2012 #70

I agree - and admire the wordsmith that did it so well karynnj Jan 2012 #37

I don't zipplewrath Jan 2012 #39

That's a toughy. A paragraph about welcoming home our last troops in Iraq mmonk Jan 2012 #10

I interpreted it as America is now safer and better respected for having left Iraq. Scuba Jan 2012 #11

100% correct malaise Jan 2012 #13

Ahem, bullshit. He said precisely that. Bonobo Jan 2012 #17

Ahem ProSense Jan 2012 #18

Web at least agree that it's very clear from the precise text. Bonobo Jan 2012 #19

What? ProSense Jan 2012 #22

So then how was the US made safer according to the statement? Bonobo Jan 2012 #27

Here, ProSense Jan 2012 #30

Tortured logic. Ugh. nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #31

You ProSense Jan 2012 #38

You deserve a freaking medal. Your patience for dealing with certain people here, is simply legend. Number23 Jan 2012 #67

They've done a lot more than just fight in Iraq ecstatic Jan 2012 #42

well, we all know you'd want him to say how evil america is and how much we suck... dionysus Jan 2012 #47

I'm choosing not to believe people who make up stuff out of the blue uponit7771 Jan 2012 #51

Yes he did, but war = peace around here. donheld Jan 2012 #71

If that above statement is his exact quote then, FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #20

Some day you might figure out there are cases when your spin is pointless. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #21

Yes ProSense Jan 2012 #23

Very curious NNN0LHI Jan 2012 #24

Safer, schmafer. Hairsplitting can't hide the perverse apologetics. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #25

Even ProSense Jan 2012 #26

oooh, perverse... how biting... dionysus Jan 2012 #52

are you daft enough to suggest he spend the state of the union explaining everything that's wrong dionysus Jan 2012 #48

So how, exactly, has "this generation of heroes made the United States safer"? Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #29

Oh ProSense Jan 2012 #32

So the way that "this generation of heroes made the United States safer" was to come home from Iraq. Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #36

Nice wording on someone's part to get around that karynnj Jan 2012 #35

Right. kentuck Jan 2012 #41

No ProSense Jan 2012 #43

Are we to assume he wasn't talking about Iraq? kentuck Jan 2012 #55

Thanks ProSense. Scurrilous Jan 2012 #44

I didn't take it the way some did Broderick Jan 2012 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author dionysus Jan 2012 #49

some people honestly think he should have spent what is basically a national pep rally, to declare dionysus Jan 2012 #50

Pretty much. Not only was this a National Pep Rally, it was the kickoff for his campaign. renie408 Jan 2012 #54

LOL Broderick Jan 2012 #57

That is an extremely athletic tip toe around the subjects he didn't want to take credit for. renie408 Jan 2012 #53

Wow, you stretch anything to meet your goal. It is actually entertaining. Lawyer? Logical Jan 2012 #56

Thanks, ProSense, I thought he was talking about the troops and NOT... Spazito Jan 2012 #58

Being able to win a point in court is not the same as telling the truth. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #59

Wow. Well said! +1,000! nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #66

Good God... Number23 Jan 2012 #68

It was a subliminal attribution something along the lines of using 9/11 and Saddam Hussein in the Uncle Joe Jan 2012 #60

Maybe he should have been clearer loyalsister Jan 2012 #61

of course he didn't but the Obama 'dislikers' will insist he did. WI_DEM Jan 2012 #62

Depends on what the definition of the word "is" is, right? bvar22 Jan 2012 #65