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In reply to the discussion: Banning assault rifles will do no good. [View all]libdem4life
(13,877 posts)not all...just instructive on how we really ro have the expertise to manage the administrative controls, checks and balances on a product that everyone NEEDS and is not manufactured to take a life. And the lame crowbar, rope, tire iron, knife, razor blade and other consumer product "similarity" seems beneath even average intellectual discourse.
Show me any numbers of say, tire irons, approaching the social cost of $175 billion, and we'll either be finding another way to change a tire, or they'll be damn expensive.
As my research showed for autos...$300 billion cost in damage, all for the most part unintended, accidental and not designed to kill but spread out over 200 million drivers. Yet DUIs and manslaughter are vigorously pursued legally, carry added civil liability, and have significant impact over one's entire life. The auto insurance numbers pretty much cover that...$1,500 average.
We, the drivers (not the other people who don't or can't drive) are required by law to insure driving privileges, based on the cost to the insurance company, regarding a piece of metal and to also pay for uninsured motorist, Acts of God, damage to property, partial medical, etc. There is a real background check apparatus that functions well. In most states, an uninsured vehicle may not be be driven by an unlicensed person. The insurance covers the driver and the auto and the social damage and you have to pay to play, so to speak.
Three out of four do not own guns, yet the NRA and ilk and their supporting manufacturers grow fabulously wealthy. Gun owners, manufacturers, "non-profits" such as the NRA are shamelessly on the Public Teat. (TEAT...Taxed Enough Already x Two) Privatizing the profits, while socializing (that means everybody has to pay for the privilege of a few) the carnage.
The way things are today is going to change. Clinging to the era of the Wild, Wild West and John Wayne's glory days, circa Rambo and Terminator with weapons in every adult's holster, is history. It's only the how or the when.
Guns for protection and hunting we will always have with us, in one form or another. Fine. But they can't mow down a crowd of more than one or two...(fatalities and damage more in line with the Wild Wild West and the auto example). This should be sufficient reason for gun ownership and leaves out most of the Paranoids. The odds of a weapon killing a family member or child is off the charts more likely as opposed to the odds of needing to prepare a private militia to pull off an armed Waco...yet again.
Like the gun banners, the gun worshipers are going to have to give. Perhaps Sandy Hook and 20 6-year olds and 6 public servants was not enough, but it will happen.
Laws will change. The three-fourths of us who don't have or want guns just ask the other one-fourth to be responsible, pay their way for their choices and the fallout.
Back to the autos, notice, it's not called driver's insurance...it's called auto insurance. That covers the driver and the occupants, the privilege to drive, the liability and is responsible for the damage.