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sarisataka

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30. Total votes for Obama 60,459,974

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:56 PM

Jan 2013

Let's assume they also voted for Dems in other offices
28%= 16,928,792

Midterm elections always have lower turnout so let's cut that by 30%=11,850,154

and say only 40% change their vote=4,740,061

Obama won the popular vote by 2,805,992

What would Karl Rove give to have that kind of a swing? Over 2x Obama's victory total swinging Republican over a single issue. It is not a scenario I would like to see; Obama's last two years facing a hostile Congress.

Give it some thought, is the political fallout worth the action taken... Is an AWB as ineffective as we saw in '94 worth a drastic shift in power? Even if crime drops, will most people understand if there is a cause-effect relationship, or will they listen when the NRA reminds them 'He came for some of your guns now he is coming for the rest...'

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How Will The American People React When The President Proposes Some Gun Safety Measures & The Repug. [View all] global1 Jan 2013 OP

Considering Harry Reid doesn't support an AWB hack89 Jan 2013 #1

He was on local NPR last night Nevernose Jan 2013 #73

It's gonna be ugly B2G Jan 2013 #2

Very true Berserker Jan 2013 #5

Exactly n /t B2G Jan 2013 #6

????? bongbong Jan 2013 #22

Exhibit A. N/T beevul Jan 2013 #42

Pesky facts bongbong Jan 2013 #7

If you're done ROTFL, please post a link B2G Jan 2013 #9

Moving the goalpost bongbong Jan 2013 #10

It's 40%, not 28%, and that is huge. B2G Jan 2013 #11

Nope bongbong Jan 2013 #13

It's 40%. B2G Jan 2013 #14

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #16

You're not reading that graph correctly NickB79 Jan 2013 #25

Since when are non-gun-owners who live with a gun owner considered "true gun owners"? DanTex Jan 2013 #33

It's not asking about non-gun owners NickB79 Jan 2013 #39

28% of Dems own a gun. Another 13% don't own a gun, but live with someone who owns a gun. DanTex Jan 2013 #41

Read the title of that column again NickB79 Jan 2013 #44

Umm... let's try this again. DanTex Jan 2013 #48

More than one person can live in a household NickB79 Jan 2013 #54

... DanTex Jan 2013 #57

Nope bongbong Jan 2013 #63

Household ownership is 40% B2G Jan 2013 #26

It is far more than 40%. former9thward Jan 2013 #51

Prove it bongbong Jan 2013 #62

You are hopeless B2G Jan 2013 #70

Numbers can't be explained away bongbong Jan 2013 #71

Total votes for Obama 60,459,974 sarisataka Jan 2013 #30

What makes you think 40% of gun-owning Dems would swing right? DanTex Jan 2013 #55

Mostly sarisataka Jan 2013 #58

Meaningless rant bongbong Jan 2013 #64

Thanks bb sarisataka Jan 2013 #67

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #68

Anything to make your day better sarisataka Jan 2013 #69

A lot of the controversy on DU is due a high amount of NRA troll traffic. DanTex Jan 2013 #12

A renewed AWB is hanging right around 50% overall NickB79 Jan 2013 #18

The Washington Post poll has AWB 58-39. And hi-cap mags 65-32. DanTex Jan 2013 #23

And the Gallup poll shows the opposite NickB79 Jan 2013 #28

Gallup seems to be the outlier here. DanTex Jan 2013 #31

"Maybe it depends on the wording". nick of time Jan 2013 #50

So "gun owners" as a solid block, do not support reasonable regulations? jberryhill Jan 2013 #27

Of course not. It's just another NRA talking point. DanTex Jan 2013 #35

Fortunately, a small number of Dems are gun cultists. Hoyt Jan 2013 #53

There will be a few changes on the Federal level and then some new shiny will distract everyone ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #3

Texas and Wyoming. I expect more n/t shadowrider Jan 2013 #37

gun and ammo sales will go up Johonny Jan 2013 #4

Went to my local Feed and Gun Store today, nick of time Jan 2013 #8

Hmmm bongbong Jan 2013 #19

I doubt it. nick of time Jan 2013 #24

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #61

I'd give it even odds that they'll vote in more pro-gun politicians NickB79 Jan 2013 #15

Link? bongbong Jan 2013 #20

You were just actively discussing it upthread NickB79 Jan 2013 #29

Hearsay evidence is .... bongbong Jan 2013 #65

My turn now B2G Jan 2013 #32

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #66

Agree! n/t Meg_Griffin_1 Jan 2013 #21

States that will probably vote Republican in 2016 Lurks Often Jan 2013 #36

Here is a few more Berserker Jan 2013 #47

I am not sure what will happen, ElbarDee Jan 2013 #17

See, now THERE is a plan that makes sense. Socal31 Jan 2013 #60

We will lose the midterms. nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #34

That's my fear as well NickB79 Jan 2013 #40

Hopefully we can learn to separate gun ownership from gun paranoia. Guns will always be with some libdem4life Jan 2013 #38

Who's talking about machine guns? NickB79 Jan 2013 #43

Don't parse with me. I don't have to be PC to know murder, death and mayhem. So sorry not to have libdem4life Jan 2013 #45

If you want to discuss gun control, you need to get the basics down NickB79 Jan 2013 #49

No I don't. And I never use the word "ban"...explicitly and purposely so...because I don't know. libdem4life Jan 2013 #59

Doesn't the house oppose 95% of everything Obama does, anyway? Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #46

Crazy men who own guns will adjust their nuts and order the wife to bring another beer Warpy Jan 2013 #52

The smaller number of people with larger numbers of guns and heavier weaponry should be alarming.... PDJane Jan 2013 #56

"Gun Safety" or "Gun Control?" derby378 Jan 2013 #72

I Thought I'd Frank Luntz It In Reverse And Use A Less Explosive Word..... nt global1 Jan 2013 #74