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45. I was drafted in 1968 when they were transitioning from the M-14

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:11 PM

Jan 2013

to the M-16. We were issued the M-14 and I qualified expert with it, I never once had a malfunction with it. We had I think one day on the range with the M-16. The M-16 felt like a cheap toy to me, mine jammed a couple times while shooting target but it was accurate and easy to shoot. They let us shoot a magazine in three round bursts, I had a jam on that too. I was lucky I was sent to Germany so I never used either one in combat. Guys I have talked to that were in Vietnam complained that the least little bit of dirt would make the M-16 malfunction. They all praised the AK-47 as being a far better weapon and it is built like a tank and super reliable.

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I'm being honest here. What's the thing with [View all] upaloopa Jan 2013 OP

No clue here. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #1

I don't have an answer for you, upaloopa. But since this is a gun thread, ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2013 #2

I don't know maybe later today upaloopa Jan 2013 #5

Zombie Apocalypse reverend_tim Jan 2013 #3

It's merely a rifle hack89 Jan 2013 #4

Thanks for you input upaloopa Jan 2013 #6

thanks for the non snark oldhippydude Jan 2013 #7

Plus it is very modular. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #12

That's a big point; it's what you all paid me to train with Recursion Jan 2013 #23

Very good points. I agree. xoom Jan 2013 #51

My dad had a couple of hunting rifles and neither one of them were AR15s. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #58

So? nt hack89 Jan 2013 #62

So, smartass, I am responding to your statement that AR15s are the hunting rifle of choice and have kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #63

And there are many others that disagree hack89 Jan 2013 #65

The gun nutters are the arrogant ones in this picture. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #67

And of course "gun nutter" = someone who disagrees with me. hack89 Jan 2013 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author ceejdre82 Jan 2013 #71

Was wondering how long it would take Sissyk Jan 2013 #99

It's a freaking tool, Daninmo Jan 2013 #100

Don't own one bpositive Jan 2013 #8

A very good question, upaloopa. 99Forever Jan 2013 #9

Round up the usual suspects bongbong Jan 2013 #14

Oh I can translate that... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #60

+1 JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #94

I have no idea, either. I qualified with the M-16 as an expert marksman. MineralMan Jan 2013 #10

I have heard it has something to do with penis size. NCTraveler Jan 2013 #11

You're not helping here with that upaloopa Jan 2013 #20

That's exactly what it's about. The MEN in my family never needed sissy guns like the AR15 to kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #66

They all well-hung, huh? Luuuckyyyy.... jmg257 Jan 2013 #77

We have a real coyote problem here nick of time Jan 2013 #13

Not to knock you, I lived in the boonies with many coyotes. upaloopa Jan 2013 #15

I believe you. nick of time Jan 2013 #17

some guy want the most powerful muscle car Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #16

Thanks I'm hoping we don't go into that kind upaloopa Jan 2013 #18

Maybe I phrased that poorly Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #19

It's no faster-shooting than any other semi-automatic weapon Recursion Jan 2013 #22

Lightweight, ergonomic, easy to shoot, easy to repair, easy to modify Recursion Jan 2013 #21

Really, honestly, if you have to ask the question, ....... oldhippie Jan 2013 #24

I'm not new to guns. I'm not new to hobbies. upaloopa Jan 2013 #31

I certainly don't dispute your right to ask ...... oldhippie Jan 2013 #34

Yes I can upaloopa Jan 2013 #39

Please please please..post a pic if you do the 300 especially Drew Richards Jan 2013 #81

The difference is, no guy buying a Corvette, Ferrari or Cadillac..... Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #90

I never think that ..... oldhippie Jan 2013 #113

No, I'm sorry, if you are collecting guns as if they are baseball cards.... Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #116

I told you that you wouldn't understand. oldhippie Jan 2013 #118

When something is illogical, it is by its very nature hard to understand. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #119

I will. Thanks! oldhippie Jan 2013 #121

I don't get it, I have been around guns all my life and doc03 Jan 2013 #25

I loved the M-14. nick of time Jan 2013 #29

I was drafted in 1968 when they were transitioning from the M-14 doc03 Jan 2013 #45

I was drafted in 67. nick of time Jan 2013 #47

I was discussing AR-15 jamming at work Mnpaul Jan 2013 #76

Exactly correct. nick of time Jan 2013 #79

There were several problems with the early M16a1 oneshooter Jan 2013 #84

they need them in case IMAGINARY HITLER shows up Skittles Jan 2013 #26

Thing is, all rifles are 'military knockoff' if you go back. X_Digger Jan 2013 #27

+1 LAGC Jan 2013 #59

Why? "small penis." nt TeamPooka Jan 2013 #28

Don't you love it? nick of time Jan 2013 #30

Yep. upaloopa Jan 2013 #32

I'm kinda where you are. nick of time Jan 2013 #35

And look which side is dishing out the insults. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #69

Yup. nick of time Jan 2013 #72

I don't think a lot of people would freak out seeing one of these tularetom Jan 2013 #33

So honestly, you think the Connecticut shooter thucythucy Jan 2013 #36

Yes. nick of time Jan 2013 #38

It could have been done with any number of guns Lurks Often Jan 2013 #54

Google Mini 14 Mnpaul Jan 2013 #75

This is frightening. thucythucy Jan 2013 #98

He could have done it with handguns - remember Va Tech? nt hack89 Jan 2013 #89

Yeah, I remember. thucythucy Jan 2013 #101

Just remember that gun violence has been steadily falling for 30 years hack89 Jan 2013 #102

I've thought about selling my AR-15 and buying on of those. nick of time Jan 2013 #37

Probably not Lurks Often Jan 2013 #49

Oh, ok. nick of time Jan 2013 #52

The mini 14's Daninmo Jan 2013 #103

just stop JanMichael Jan 2013 #117

My k-ray blaster is normally set to "stun." hunter Jan 2013 #40

People want what they want for any myriad of reasons. dkf Jan 2013 #41

No, but this thing had been used to kill children upaloopa Jan 2013 #43

All types of guns kill children. dkf Jan 2013 #44

Suppose the NRA and gun owners went on TV upaloopa Jan 2013 #46

I never understand why we try to make more laws to fix the problem when we don't enforce old laws. dkf Jan 2013 #55

Before this past weekend, I read that 24 minors had been shot in Chicago amandabeech Jan 2013 #80

When you are dealing with a deadly weapon, then yes, there should be some sort of justification. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #91

Several reasons. krispos42 Jan 2013 #42

First Person Shooter libodem Jan 2013 #48

That is the weapon I am trained on Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #50

Perhaps for those of us who are blissfully unaware, and kicking and screaming not to need to know, libdem4life Jan 2013 #53

I can see your thinking is rooted in a logical thought process rather than irrational emotion. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #57

Right. We certainly would not want to be emotional...gasp...about little events like gun mutilation libdem4life Jan 2013 #70

your imagining of the obscene, and dehumanizing of 6 year olds to nothing more SQUEE Jan 2013 #97

Sorry, not so. No porn of any kind kills kids...very bad analogy. Red Herring for today. libdem4life Jan 2013 #105

RE .PS Your waving thier bodies about as a bloody shirt for an agenda you already hold dear SQUEE Jan 2013 #106

What I hold dear are lives. What I do not hold dear is funding $175 billion for Rights libdem4life Jan 2013 #107

Prepare to be shocked SQUEE Jan 2013 #108

It's always a wonderful thing when the push and pull of differing opinions make a new reality libdem4life Jan 2013 #112

Like others have said Lurks Often Jan 2013 #56

Accuracy, reliability, ergonomics... Taitertots Jan 2013 #61

Why do some people drive sports cars? Or wear $1,000 watches? brooklynite Jan 2013 #64

Why do people want an iPhone when they're overpriced & don't work as well as other phones? Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #73

I dunno. It's not even a good deer-hunting gun. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #74

deer is the only thing hunted? Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #82

Since there is all this talk about them, I want one now. rightsideout Jan 2013 #78

That's what gun porn will do to you ..... oldhippie Jan 2013 #83

I own several, in fact I build them. oneshooter Jan 2013 #85

Active military here... Coyote_Tan Jan 2013 #86

So why can't you go to the military range and use a military weapon ? upaloopa Jan 2013 #87

Exactly. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #88

They did when I was in the army. upaloopa Jan 2013 #92

Because they don't let you do that Recursion Jan 2013 #93

Don't you have to qualify annually like PT? upaloopa Jan 2013 #95

In the Marines, at least Recursion Jan 2013 #96

I was in the National Guard Lurks Often Jan 2013 #114

In the 12 years I was active duty (1970-82) ...... oldhippie Jan 2013 #120

If you were a professional pianist.. Coyote_Tan Jan 2013 #104

A couple of reasons, the army typically didn't buy a whole lot of ammo okaawhatever Jan 2013 #109

Viagra doesn't work for some gun nuts. baldguy Jan 2013 #110

"Consider your man card reissued." KamaAina Jan 2013 #111

Zombies. cleanhippie Jan 2013 #115

I've shot a few zombies with an AR-15. It doesn't work. Buns_of_Fire Jan 2013 #122

Not a gun owner so I can't speak to the exact subject of the OP bighart Jan 2013 #123