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billh58

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130. Actually, if you are

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:31 PM

Jan 2013

not a gun nut who believes that the 2nd Amendment gives you the right to take up arms against the government, then this is not directed at you. There are millions of responsible gun owners, such as yourself, in this country who agree with more strict forms of gun control.

It is the gun fetishists, and Gungeon fanatics who belong to the NRA's "cold, dead hands" cult who are the problem. As President Obama has affirmed, Democrats are not "coming for your guns," as the NRA would have people believe. We want to nullify the right-wing extremist NRA's political influence, and return this country to sane and responsible gun control measures.

National polls show that the majority of the American people, including reasonable gun owners, support stricter gun control measures. Being the leading civilized country in the world in the number of gun deaths and injuries is not something to be proud of, but it is something that we can address.

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Hey You With The Gun...Yeah, YOU [View all] kpete Jan 2013 OP

There's that word again TheCowsCameHome Jan 2013 #1

Gun Nuts = Public Health Hazard DinahMoeHum Jan 2013 #2

So are all legal gun owners gun nuts? hack89 Jan 2013 #7

Just plenty, in my experience. nt Chorophyll Jan 2013 #21

Funny - my experience is exactly the opposite hack89 Jan 2013 #22

Nope regjoe Jan 2013 #24

I've spent the last month talking to real people who are convinced that Chorophyll Jan 2013 #25

Both sides have their nut cases. hack89 Jan 2013 #28

Both sides have their nut cases IveWornAHundredPants Jan 2013 #38

And on the other there is a serious authoritarian streak hack89 Jan 2013 #39

And some of the authoritarians are freakin' hilarious derby378 Jan 2013 #48

Then you ought to get some shoes that fit. IveWornAHundredPants Jan 2013 #52

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #57

You do know that the state of NY is implementing a database for people with mental illness hack89 Jan 2013 #59

You should be jumping for joy bongbong Jan 2013 #63

No - they listened to Governor Cuomo. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #64

No - they listened to your idol Wayne LaTerrorist bongbong Jan 2013 #67

So the NRA is not weak and powerless. Interesting. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #69

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #74

Uh, there IS a database for mentally ill. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #129

The nut cases you're supporting tend to leave a whole load of dead bodies in their wake. baldguy Jan 2013 #96

And who would they be? hack89 Jan 2013 #123

What I'm sensing from SOME (not all) gun-control advocates derby378 Jan 2013 #128

"Both sides have their nut cases." Hm. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #133

The hyperbole, the insults, the broad brush stereotyping, hack89 Jan 2013 #135

Maybe you need to get a better class of friends. Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #122

Heh. They definitely ain't my friends. nt Chorophyll Jan 2013 #132

Enough to tilt the scales lastlib Jan 2013 #47

In what direction? hack89 Jan 2013 #51

70 mil people own a gun and only 4 mil belong to the NRA randr Jan 2013 #112

Just those who align with the NRA and block moving towards public safety. morningfog Jan 2013 #115

Too logical and sensible for that crowd. Brigid Jan 2013 #3

All this reminds me of a witch hunt that desires the trials for those labeled to begin immediately... AuntPatsy Jan 2013 #4

Ahhh... 99Forever Jan 2013 #5

mmm salty tears SQUEE Jan 2013 #10

I'm sorry, did you say something? derby378 Jan 2013 #29

Yes we were... 99Forever Jan 2013 #30

Run along and play with the other kids... derby378 Jan 2013 #32

Hypocrite much? 99Forever Jan 2013 #34

I would wonder about some of these responses being deliberate to make DU look bad but sadly I've AuntPatsy Jan 2013 #84

My wife was a very strong supporter of gun control derby378 Jan 2013 #97

You're not acting like an adult DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2013 #49

Ah, the smug self-righteousness oozing from that diatribe... derby378 Jan 2013 #73

20 Slaughtered Six Year Olds, Killed With A Semi Auto In Minutes, Not A Knife, Not A Hammer, Not Skraxx Jan 2013 #81

No one that exhibits even a tad bit intelligence questions the need for common sense regulation but AuntPatsy Jan 2013 #89

Really? I See People Opposing Common Sense Regulation Constantly As "Not Worth It, Won't Change Skraxx Jan 2013 #93

Killed by a maniac who STOLE a gun and KILLED ITS RIGHTFUL OWNER derby378 Jan 2013 #94

The Guns Were IN THE MANIACS HOUSE And He Had EASY Access to Them Skraxx Jan 2013 #99

HOW easy? derby378 Jan 2013 #101

So You Support The Status Quo That Enables Maniacs Easy Access To Weapons Of Mass Slaughter Skraxx Jan 2013 #102

Do you begin every sentence with "So?" derby378 Jan 2013 #103

What's Interesting Is Your Failure To Address Any Salient Points. So, That Must Mean You Have No Skraxx Jan 2013 #105

I've already addressed them sufficiently derby378 Jan 2013 #107

Yes, Pretend You Addressed Them, Too Bad I'm Here To Call Bullshit Skraxx Jan 2013 #110

Oh, By The Way, USSC Also Says It's Ok To Regulat Guns, You Ok With That? Skraxx Jan 2013 #104

You and I both know that's a straw man... derby378 Jan 2013 #106

LOL! Sure It Is! One USSC Decision You Like, The Other You Don't, Cherry Pick Until Your Hearts Skraxx Jan 2013 #108

And about machine guns... derby378 Jan 2013 #109

Try Buying A Machine Gun Skraxx Jan 2013 #111

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Now I'm CONVINCED you need a mug of hot chocolate derby378 Jan 2013 #114

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #118

Somebody once told me that what you put into the universe, you get back derby378 Jan 2013 #120

Wow. Thanks, Jesus. Now turn that other cheek if you don't mind. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2013 #121

Interesting response...I'll leave it at that.. AuntPatsy Jan 2013 #82

I am getting to where I just cannot fucking stand them Skittles Jan 2013 #127

Well, try being bipolar in the middle of all of this. Denninmi Jan 2013 #12

I could not even imagine what you've been going through, just so you know, its not all that visit DU AuntPatsy Jan 2013 #90

+10000000 B2G Jan 2013 #17

Hey wait a damn minute nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #19

Your right, if all these people that are against oldbanjo Jan 2013 #45

Very true AuntPatsy Jan 2013 #91

agreed that not all gun owners are paranoid - but there are many vocal ones who are threatening samsingh Jan 2013 #55

There are many vocal threats being directed at American children and many of those threats are comin AuntPatsy Jan 2013 #98

A gun owner telling everyone else to wait to make up their minds is the epitome of ironic. aandegoons Jan 2013 #66

? My post was in response to the subject header...perhaps if you reread it you would understand my AuntPatsy Jan 2013 #100

A little slower for you. aandegoons Jan 2013 #131

Witch hunt! Be afraid! morningfog Jan 2013 #116

patsy - good name Skittles Jan 2013 #126

Actually, if you are billh58 Jan 2013 #130

What about those of us that just want to shoot at paper targets? hack89 Jan 2013 #6

Here you go: Erose999 Jan 2013 #8

How about an AR-15 with a 10 round mag? hack89 Jan 2013 #9

Last I checked they were still using .22LR for the olympic events. Erose999 Jan 2013 #11

High Power Competition are the most popular shooting events in America hack89 Jan 2013 #14

Well stop doing that simple upaloopa Jan 2013 #15

Ain't going to happen. hack89 Jan 2013 #16

You wanna shoot pieces of paper with an AR15? Great. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #23

No - we shoot all over New England. hack89 Jan 2013 #26

I didn't say it was bad ass. I think it's assinine. nt Chorophyll Jan 2013 #27

It's just a rifle - a very practical rifle. hack89 Jan 2013 #31

Or, at the very least, a practical suggestion that could prevent the next school shooting derby378 Jan 2013 #33

Is this what you are talking about? Hoyt Jan 2013 #35

Think what you want - no skin off my nose. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #37

This is HighPower rifle. What you found was 3 gun. oneshooter Jan 2013 #80

Hello there. May I ask you a question? 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #88

I was a Marine for eight years. oneshooter Jan 2013 #92

Couldn't you find a quote from a non-disgusting politician? 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2013 #95

and I used to hunt azureblue Jan 2013 #42

I don't hunt - never have. hack89 Jan 2013 #43

Why do you do that? upaloopa Jan 2013 #44

I shot plenty of weapons during my 20 years of service hack89 Jan 2013 #50

Unfortunately, there are twenty families thucythucy Jan 2013 #56

Which has nothing to do with me. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #58

Really? thucythucy Jan 2013 #60

Why are your solutions the only acceptable ones? hack89 Jan 2013 #61

Single payer health care? Sure, thucythucy Jan 2013 #71

If there was a substance that was directly linked to death, illness, suicide and violence. hack89 Jan 2013 #72

You're talking about what? Alcohol, drugs? thucythucy Jan 2013 #75

I own other things that kill more children annually than AR-15s hack89 Jan 2013 #79

Except of course the mother of the Connecticut thucythucy Jan 2013 #136

Here's a link to the thread I mentioned in my last post thucythucy Jan 2013 #78

I say you get to keep your AR if you can snooper2 Jan 2013 #68

I have no sense of rhythm - could be a real problem here. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #70

You need another outlet for your problem. morningfog Jan 2013 #117

I don't have a problem hack89 Jan 2013 #124

How the hell can he get hard from that? Dragonfli Jan 2013 #18

No, You Can't, And If You Enjoy It, And Are Resonsible About It Skraxx Jan 2013 #83

Treasure that feeling of smug superiority hack89 Jan 2013 #85

Is "Smug Sense Of Superiority" The New NRA Talking Point Or Something? So, IOW, You Can't Respond Skraxx Jan 2013 #87

How long have you supported the NRA? morningfog Jan 2013 #119

I resigned my membership 15 years ago. hack89 Jan 2013 #125

Dumb - On At Least Two Levels NeedleCast Jan 2013 #13

Really? jeff47 Jan 2013 #36

Nobody in the Republican party opposes the NFA, or keeping felons from having weapons Recursion Jan 2013 #53

I'm guessing that the problem is you define "reasonable" a tad more narrowly than most people. jeff47 Jan 2013 #62

True! And from what I've seen the only tyranny these people feel truebluegreen Jan 2013 #86

Then you haven't been paying attention nt abelenkpe Jan 2013 #40

K&R Chorophyll Jan 2013 #20

GUNS are Island Deac Jan 2013 #41

May I remind NRA members azureblue Jan 2013 #46

The NRA has been opposed to gun control for more than four years JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #65

kick 100000000 samsingh Jan 2013 #54

Talk about paranoid. bluerum Jan 2013 #76

You have no right to a appropriate and resaonable public health policy didact Jan 2013 #77

Simplistic brainless shit is not helpful. cali Jan 2013 #134