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SouthernDonkey

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64. I recently posted some photos..
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:44 AM
Jan 2013

In the photography group from my recent trip to Philadelphia, MS and Neshoba County.
I'm a 52 year old white male who was born and raised here. I dearly love the south. The country, the landscape, the climate even.
But the history is horrible and the racism, where it is present, is VERY obvious, and is always boiling right under the surface.

I met by chance and had conversations with five strangers during my visit there. Two of them were directly related to two of the men who were directly involved with the murders of the 3 civil rights workers, Cheney, Goodman, and Schwerner, in 1964, The Mississippi Burning case. The two men they are related to are Edgar Ray Killen, recently convicted as the KKK recruiter who was the mastermind behind it all; and Olen Burrage, in who's levy the young men were buried, who should have been convicted as well, but was never tried and has managed to skate justice all these years. I met them quite by accident. I drove right up into the middle of Killens family's homestead without realizing it. I stopped to ask a guy on the side of the road "exactly where the civil rights workers were killed." He leaned in my window and after a brief introduction and ascertaining that I wasn't a threat (and wouldn't put any of this on the internet! OOOPS!), informed me that he was Killens great nephew, and all these houses belong to Killen's, and "thats Edgar Rays house right there behind you". It was quite un-nerving for a moment. But he invited me to park and talk if I wanted, so I did. It was about 1/8th of a mile from where they murdered those boys...up the same road. For all intents and purposes, Edgar Rays driveway. It left no doubt in my mind as to Edgar Ray Killens guilt.

He was talkative and we spoke for about 15 minutes, but he didn't want to really discuss the murders; claiming "as far as we all are concerned there never was no murders!" The other I met, a nephew of Burrage, was downright hateful and rude and brushed me off altogether when I asked about taking some photos of the family farm.

There are many of that mindset still here. Still all over the south. Until these generations of folks die off those old attitudes will not change. BUT you must all know too there are a lot of good, hard working, non racist people here as well. I know them. I met them there also, in what remains as probably one of the most racially bitter areas of the south. Do not paint us all with a broad brush!

There are good caring people, who know and stand up for what is right. Thank God for those! If there weren't there would be no hope of things ever getting any better in the South. I live here. I see the hate. But I also see the hope!

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Slavery never ended loyalsister Jan 2013 #1
No, travel down to the Delta and observe the living conditions and "indentured" blacks Tutonic Jan 2013 #63
I fully agree loyalsister Jan 2013 #66
My father's family were sharecroppers near Meridian, Mississippi revolution breeze Jan 2013 #72
Awful dipsydoodle Jan 2013 #2
kr HiPointDem Jan 2013 #3
Chain gangs are not hidden. Just ignored. Scootaloo Jan 2013 #4
Some days I'm ashamed to be an American ... Scuba Jan 2013 #5
Our American Holocaust MrScorpio Jan 2013 #6
The mass graves are out there, they just need to be found. Scuba Jan 2013 #8
Are you referring to burial grounds? Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #18
Why would it matter? Scuba Jan 2013 #20
Thank you. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #32
It doesn't matter. They were robbed of their place in the sun, that they should have had. freshwest Jan 2013 #39
Worked to death or executed....what's the difference?... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #23
+1 you speak truth. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #47
the noose took the place of gas chambers SemperEadem Jan 2013 #12
Our 2nd holocaust. grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #54
"we want our country back..." SemperEadem Jan 2013 #11
Yeah, they want to live off what they stole from others - their freedom, their labor, their lives. freshwest Jan 2013 #40
So so true Euphoria Jan 2013 #57
Still happening... disproportionate sentencing for black folks and prison labor... Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #53
This is why I have no desire to live in the South. UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #7
I live in TN and you are spot on. reflection Jan 2013 #15
"Oh, but the South is so put-upon and misunderstood!" in 3...2...1... Aristus Jan 2013 #24
It hurts to hear people bash the South reflection Jan 2013 #29
I agree. I grew up with a number of things about the South that I loved. Aristus Jan 2013 #30
The south is different as any internal colony is different. Other internal colonies include: HiPointDem Jan 2013 #61
Me, too, reflection. I had to move back to care for aging parents. Politicub Jan 2013 #51
Thank you. Kick. Rec. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2013 #9
that is the country that the tea farts want to be taken back to SemperEadem Jan 2013 #10
+1000 Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #34
Right to Work. tclambert Jan 2013 #13
What Martin Luther King, Jr. knew: freshwest Jan 2013 #62
K&R idwiyo Jan 2013 #14
Thank you so much for posting. nc4bo Jan 2013 #16
But, but, states rights! ellie Jan 2013 #17
That is EXACTLY what people mean by "states rights" Hugabear Jan 2013 #28
Unless one is talking about Marijuana or DOMA hughee99 Jan 2013 #38
SMH Mr Dixon Jan 2013 #19
Slavery Just went corporate with Share-Cropping JCMach1 Jan 2013 #21
K&R Solly Mack Jan 2013 #22
If only the 14 year old black kid had been smoking a joint...many here would *applaud* his Romulox Jan 2013 #25
if the kid was 17 and black and had Skittles, some here would defend his killing CreekDog Jan 2013 #27
you are right about that. racism runs deep noiretextatique Jan 2013 #45
I must have missed those posts.... BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #48
I agree, Romulox, combine the "War on Drugs" and for profit prisons and we Uncle Joe Jan 2013 #43
I lived in the South in the 50's and 60's and nothing would surprise surprise me about what happened demosincebirth Jan 2013 #26
My family oral history has it ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #31
god.... BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #49
This is sickening...knr joeybee12 Jan 2013 #33
k&r shanti Jan 2013 #35
Rogue government? It can't happen here. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2013 #36
K&R gollygee Jan 2013 #37
omg uponit7771 Jan 2013 #41
Some years back a DUer recommended Douglas Blackmon's Slavery by Another Name malaise Jan 2013 #42
Thanks for posting that. LisaLynne Jan 2013 #50
Yes, I remember hearing an interview with him when his book came out. Hissyspit Jan 2013 #58
It is an excellent book malaise Jan 2013 #68
k&r. Thanks for posting this story. I had no idea... Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #44
They left out The Nadir when we were taught American history. NT. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #46
rec'd limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #52
I saw a documentary that dealt with this on PBS. Third Doctor Jan 2013 #55
See post #42. Hissyspit Jan 2013 #59
I have read many heartbreaking stories on DU . . . Brigid Jan 2013 #56
I always thought this was Jim Crow caseymoz Jan 2013 #60
I recently posted some photos.. SouthernDonkey Jan 2013 #64
K&R Land Shark Jan 2013 #65
Grew up in a very liberal state... im1013 Jan 2013 #67
I remember seeing a TV show decades ago, I think in the 1960s. drm604 Jan 2013 #69
Yes -- and for a good article about this subject TuxedoKat Jan 2013 #71
k/r marmar Jan 2013 #70
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