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Eleanors38

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3. "Gun lovers." Being from the South, I took a start, there...

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:25 PM

Jan 2013

Though there is certainly less of it, a fill-in-the-blank moment passed through my mind.

What makes you think we "______ Lovers" don't already "ponder" non-violence? The community of gun-owners is already a peaceful lot in terms of crime rates.

MLK was fully aware of the need to defend family and home, and warned against confusing this with a general approach to non-violence. One can argue the means of defense (Gandhi's ahimsa, for exp.), but defense is an obligation in the view of both men. Do you agree?

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do gun advocates ponder... nonviolence? [View all] G_j Jan 2013 OP

And not just gun lovers... judy Jan 2013 #1

"As long as you hate the right person." How very true. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #5

Nonviolent revolutions are the only ones that work Recursion Jan 2013 #15

Yes, absolutely, I did mean that! judy Feb 2013 #59

Every church in every town Ron Green Jan 2013 #2

"Gun lovers." Being from the South, I took a start, there... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #3

changed to "advocate".. I don't recall MLK jr. and his supporters ever taking guns into situations G_j Jan 2013 #6

I appreciate the change, even though it was of the "smaller caliber" flip-offs... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #9

Look up the Deacons for Defense ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #44

The Washington Post had a recent article on the Deacons... PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #51

Because all gun owners are inherently violent? nt hack89 Jan 2013 #4

no, most PEOPLE can be G_j Jan 2013 #7

I'm sure there are some non-violent gun lovers out there. dawg Jan 2013 #8

But the common sense you invoke is subjective Lurks Often Jan 2013 #10

old arguments marions ghost Jan 2013 #12

Get back to me on that when both branches Congress refuses to pass anything n/t Lurks Often Jan 2013 #13

And your point is....? marions ghost Jan 2013 #14

Thanks for another fact free post Lurks Often Jan 2013 #16

Didn't think you had any point marions ghost Jan 2013 #18

You're right, it is subjective. dawg Jan 2013 #19

Some comments Lurks Often Jan 2013 #21

I think you make some very good points. Here is my take ... dawg Jan 2013 #23

Comments Lurks Often Jan 2013 #24

"..magazines holding more then 10 rounds have been around since at least WWI." G_j Jan 2013 #33

and you can make certain types of chemical weapons Lurks Often Jan 2013 #38

Don't you think it would be better G_j Jan 2013 #39

That's a pretty pathetic post n/t Lurks Often Jan 2013 #40

Thank you G_j Jan 2013 #41

Hell no! I don't know one personally who has had to use their CCW rustydog Jan 2013 #11

The Fear is real, however tama Jan 2013 #53

Yes, I ponder it, as an ideal. Bake Jan 2013 #17

That is why I don't own a gun Taverner Jan 2013 #20

People often ask me about buying a firearm for self defense ... spin Jan 2013 #29

I've known people who killed in self defense Taverner Jan 2013 #30

Of course they do and they may feel guilt for the rest of their life. ... spin Jan 2013 #32

Nope. (nt) Paladin Jan 2013 #22

You cannot know that for certain given the evidence available to you. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #45

Sorry, But I'm Not Bound By Your Rules Of Evidence. Paladin Jan 2013 #50

Without evidence, *any* claim is no different than religious faith. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #57

Most of the gun people I know hope to never use their weapons on people aikoaiko Jan 2013 #25

My Wife & I are non-violent, advocates for non-violence, bvar22 Jan 2013 #26

Not for me. If some violent street criminal is about to attack me, he will get a violent response. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #27

Why would they? still_one Jan 2013 #28

I've practiced nonviolence all my life slackmaster Jan 2013 #31

hahaha no bajaman2013 Jan 2013 #34

I had to work for 30 years to get OUT of the city. bvar22 Jan 2013 #35

haha bajaman2013 Jan 2013 #36

"I've never left miami and i don't plan on it," bvar22 Jan 2013 #37

+1 Glassunion Jan 2013 #46

Have you ever given thought tama Jan 2013 #56

Never crossed their minds. baldguy Jan 2013 #42

How would you know? Is it unpossible that some might just not agree with you? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #47

I can see some annoying troll has replied to my post. baldguy Jan 2013 #49

Poor, poor you. Having people disagree with you is *such* a burden... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #58

All the time krispos42 Jan 2013 #43

As I gun owner, I pondered your link. MicaelS Jan 2013 #48

Non violent communication tama Jan 2013 #52

+100 G_j Jan 2013 #55

They're not advanced enough to understand that. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #54