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36. The Decline, Ma'am, Owes To Matters Sorting Themselves Out, Back into Stable Structures

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:01 PM

Jan 2013

The reason for the upsurge was the effective decapitation of the Gangster Disciples confederation several years ago. This was the largest group in the city by far, and it enforced a sort of order. Criminal conspiracies are, after all, concerned with profit, and an orderly environment is much better for business. With the keystone knocked out of the arch, however, the various local faction of which the Gangster Disciples confederacy was composed began to jostle for more territory and influence, and other groups that would not have dared challenge a portion of the united Gangster Disciples saw opportunity to expand against particular local factions. Situations like this sort out and settle down as new norms of territory and tribute are established. That process is well under way now.

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Missing from yesterday's speech: drugs & gangs [View all] B2G Jan 2013 OP

you can't fuck with profit centers datasuspect Jan 2013 #1

=Exactly.= Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #109

I wondered the same thing. russspeakeasy Jan 2013 #2

Guns are the problem bongbong Jan 2013 #3

I'd rather my kids go to the range than get stoned. Remmah2 Jan 2013 #7

If I was gonna have to choose between my kid smoking a joint and firing a gun, Chorophyll Jan 2013 #23

Nice false dilemma bongbong Jan 2013 #27

So narrow is the attention span................... Remmah2 Jan 2013 #34

I rather think your kids will MineralMan Jan 2013 #49

I am well aware of that. nt Remmah2 Jan 2013 #52

violence and destruction...a great family activity. ok nt msongs Jan 2013 #66

What violence and destruction? Remmah2 Jan 2013 #71

And you totally ducked the gang issue. Bake Jan 2013 #81

Pesky facts bongbong Jan 2013 #90

I'd probably opt for a deeper dive on the statistics Bake Jan 2013 #96

Here ya go bongbong Jan 2013 #99

There are NO children in my home. I keep my doors locked. Bake Jan 2013 #101

all the gungeon people were crying how their guns could be stolen, and yet when you ask them bettyellen Jan 2013 #107

I'm not a gungeoneer. Bake Jan 2013 #110

i don't think "hiding it" is quite responsible enough. bettyellen Jan 2013 #111

Again, NO CHILDREN in the home. Bake Jan 2013 #112

visitors, theft- which many here are going on and on about. bettyellen Jan 2013 #122

3 out of 4 homicides are not related to *any* other crime. ieoeja Jan 2013 #100

What, and cut into the CIA's profits? nick of time Jan 2013 #4

Would mean discussing the Drug War Fumesucker Jan 2013 #5

We can't end mental illness either B2G Jan 2013 #11

Yeah, but mental illness isn't really directly caused by government policy Fumesucker Jan 2013 #19

Actually, Ma'am, Tracing And Vetting Of All Private Sales Will Have A Great Impact On Gang Armament The Magistrate Jan 2013 #6

Yep. nick of time Jan 2013 #10

As well as guns sold and stolen from government sources. Remmah2 Jan 2013 #12

The Technical For This, Sir, Is 'Fucking Bull-Shit' The Magistrate Jan 2013 #18

I'm glad to see NRA Talking Points being given the "respect" they deserve bongbong Jan 2013 #29

It beats the gun grabber toking points. Remmah2 Jan 2013 #33

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #37

Actually I have plenty. Remmah2 Jan 2013 #38

OK bongbong Jan 2013 #39

Where is this master list of "NRA" talking points? Remmah2 Jan 2013 #40

When you hear the same evidence-free "fact" from at least 3 Delicate Flowers bongbong Jan 2013 #41

What shall we call anti gun bullshit then? Remmah2 Jan 2013 #45

Anti gun? bongbong Jan 2013 #68

If I listed my wife as being among my "hobbies," we'd have words on more than paint colors. Robb Jan 2013 #44

Tell us more about ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #50

Not limited to RKBA Remmah2 Jan 2013 #56

And a part of that package is ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #58

I just like people to stay off my ass and out of my business. Remmah2 Jan 2013 #62

How have ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #64

I own a two CMP 1994 ban compliant semi-automatic rifle. Remmah2 Jan 2013 #67

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #69

Having heard the arguments, seen the debates, statistics and poster children for the gun grabbers. Remmah2 Jan 2013 #73

Are "gun grabbers" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #75

Unfortunately the "gun grabbers" are technically ignorant. Remmah2 Jan 2013 #80

What does that mean? 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #85

I wonder how the gender equality committee feels about you saying that your wife is a "hobby." blue neen Jan 2013 #61

Specifically I don't care what they think about me caling her a wonderful wife, it's what she thinks Remmah2 Jan 2013 #65

Your posts are good reading material. blue neen Jan 2013 #98

lofl...made my afternoon uponit7771 Jan 2013 #84

I agree with you. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #13

Glad To Hear It, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2013 #24

Why not crack down on gangs? dkf Jan 2013 #15

And You Inhabit what Planet, Ma'am --- Pluto? The Magistrate Jan 2013 #22

Apparently they weren't doing it until more recently. dkf Jan 2013 #25

Do Not Try And Teach Your Grand-Father To Suck Eggs, Ma'm The Magistrate Jan 2013 #28

How many times does Obama have to mention violence in Chicago alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #35

Sounds to me like there have been significant improvements recently in certain areas. dkf Jan 2013 #42

Intelligence Collection And Collation Is In Some Ways Better In All Fields Nowadays, Ma'am The Magistrate Jan 2013 #46

I have no problem with that. dkf Jan 2013 #51

Nothing Stops You From Expressing Support, Ma'am: Many Of Us Manage It Often.... The Magistrate Jan 2013 #54

Sir, may I call you dude? You are on fire today!!! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #93

Damned Near Anything But Late For Dinner, Sir, Is Fine With Me.... The Magistrate Jan 2013 #94

I can relate, to the cooking that is. What can I say. I admire the way you Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #97

I roll my eyes at your boys club mentality. dkf Jan 2013 #104

Boys club??!! Nah, plenty of women feel the same way. Just ask around. I detect Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #108

That is funny because I think Obama, Clinton, and most practical Dems are closer to me than to dkf Jan 2013 #113

I sincerely doubt that Obama or Clinton think there was Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #115

The early info on Benghazi was bad period. dkf Jan 2013 #116

And you should be able to realize that it came from the CIA and the White House trusted them. Not Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #117

I'm a volunteering contributing card carrying Democrat. dkf Jan 2013 #118

I'm King Shit of Fuck Mountain. Any other questions? Oh and do they Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #119

No that's perfect. Thank you. dkf Jan 2013 #120

My pleash! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #121

Trimming the branches while ignoring the roots. Fozzledick Jan 2013 #43

Why not crack down on guns? Squinch Jan 2013 #72

Holy shit! Why didn't anyone think of that before???!!! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2013 #92

You have more faith than I do. One_Life_To_Give Jan 2013 #70

Hanguns were missing too. JohnnyBoots Jan 2013 #8

Who stole them? Remmah2 Jan 2013 #57

Gang violence? Hardly. Robb Jan 2013 #9

Oakland Officials Blame Woman�s Murder For Setting Off Violent Crime War dkf Jan 2013 #20

Chicago's Homicide Rates Slowing After Violent Summer Spike dkf Jan 2013 #21

LOL bongbong Jan 2013 #32

The Decline, Ma'am, Owes To Matters Sorting Themselves Out, Back into Stable Structures The Magistrate Jan 2013 #36

They are missing from the DU discourse on the subject as well. redgreenandblue Jan 2013 #14

I think you're correct. The focus was on random mass murders, not gun violence in itself. randome Jan 2013 #30

Interestingly New York City, which has tons of gangs, is not on that list of highest gun deaths. Squinch Jan 2013 #76

Really? B2G Jan 2013 #88

That shows that there sure were a lot of gun deaths in NYC in 2006. But not so much in 2011, Squinch Jan 2013 #91

According to the link you just posted ... yes, really. ieoeja Jan 2013 #95

There were probably no gang-bangers in the Peanut Gallery JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #16

I don't agree. I think it's hiding in the directive to Holder to be sure we don't miss dangerous HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #17

The CIA and NSA need their cut Taverner Jan 2013 #26

The Magistrate already set you straight on this point alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #31

Because it's no longer 1994? (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #47

There is that. ^^^^^^ Squinch Jan 2013 #82

Actually, the EO calling for repeal of the ban on researching causes of gun violence might lead... randome Jan 2013 #48

K&R for the courage to say that, especially with the legalization of cannabis on the table. nt patrice Jan 2013 #53

Because the roots causes have root causes JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #55

Then why aren't jobs, education and big brother prorams on the agenda?? B2G Jan 2013 #60

Can I be honest? JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #89

Gangbangers get their guns from "legitamate" straw buyers with no background checks jpak Jan 2013 #59

Suicide by firearms is also absent from the remediation plan B2G Jan 2013 #63

Public Health Studies Will Address This, Ma'am The Magistrate Jan 2013 #74

Seriously? You wrote that? Squinch Jan 2013 #78

So was medical mistreatment of gun injuries. That accounts for some gun deaths too. Squinch Jan 2013 #77

Those things have as much or more to do with gun violence as does mental illness Fumesucker Jan 2013 #83

And mental illness is a separate issue as well. Why does it make sense to some people that, Squinch Jan 2013 #86

Arguments 41.8% .. Non-Drug Crime 18.2% .. Gangs 8.6% .. Drugs 5% .. Other 34.3% ieoeja Jan 2013 #79

Because we will not allow distractions this time. Period. nt DevonRex Jan 2013 #87

which gangs and drug trafficking was involved in any of the mass murders recently? Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #102

Is preventing mass murders the goal? Recursion Jan 2013 #103

yes, they have very little in common Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #105

That's a fair point Recursion Jan 2013 #106

Because it is hard to fix, profitable, and a misunderstood problem. Glassunion Jan 2013 #114