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MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
38. If every gun is civilian hands was picked up and destroyed..
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jan 2013

Then Americans would revert to killing each other with edged weapons, most popular of course would be pocket knives. Then we would have another mortal panic about knives, like we did with the stiletto switchblade back in the 1950s. There would be cries of

"We have to do SOMETHING to get these terrible knives off the streets. No one NEEDS a knife outside of their home. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchblade#Automatic_knives_1900-1945

In 1950, an article titled The Toy That Kills appeared in the Women's Home Companion, a widely read U.S. periodical of the day. The article sparked a storm of controversy and a nationwide campaign that would eventually result in state and federal laws criminalizing the importation, sale, and possession of automatic-opening knives. In the article, author Jack Harrison Pollack assured the reader that the growing switchblade "menace" could have deadly consequence "as any crook can tell you." Pollack, a former aide to Democratic Senator Harley M. Kilgore and a ghostwriter for then-Senator Harry S. Truman, had authored a series of magazine articles calling for new laws to address a variety of social ills. In The Toy That Kills, Pollack wrote that the switchblade was "Designed for violence, deadly as a revolver - that’s the switchblade, the 'toy' youngsters all over the country are taking up as a fad. Press the button on this new version of the pocketknife and the blade darts out like a snake’s tongue. Action against this killer should be taken now." To back up his charges, Pollack quoted an unnamed juvenile court judge as saying: "It’s only a short step from carrying a switchblade to gang warfare."

During the 1950s, established U.S. newspapers as well as the sensationalist tabloid press joined forces in promoting the image of a young delinquent with a stiletto switchblade or flick knife. While the press focused on the switchblade as a symbol of youthful evil intent, the American public's attention was attracted by lurid stories of urban youth gang warfare and the fact that many gangs were composed of disadvantaged youth and/or racial minorities. The obvious offensive nature of the stiletto switchblade combined with reports of knife fights, robberies, and stabbings by youth gangs and other criminal elements in urban areas of the United States generated continuing demands from newspaper editorial rooms and the public for new laws restricting the lawful possession and/or use of switchblade knives. In 1954, the state of New York passed the first law banning the sale or distribution of switchblade knives in hopes of reducing gang violence. That same year, Democratic Rep. James J. Delaney of New York authored the first bill submitted to the U.S. Congress banning the manufacture and sale of switchblades.

Many U.S. congressmen viewed the controversy as an opportunity to capitalize on constant negative accounts of the switchblade knife and its connection to violence and youth gangs. This coverage included not only magazine articles but also highly popular films of the day including Rebel Without a Cause (1955), Crime in the Streets (1956), 12 Angry Men (1957), The Delinquents (1957), High School Confidential (1958), and the Broadway musical West Side Story. Hollywood's fixation on the switchblade as the sadomasochistic symbol of youth violence, sex, and delinquency resulted in renewed demands from the public and Congress to control the sale and possession of such knives. State laws restricting or criminalizing switchblade possession and use were adopted by an increasing number of state legislatures. In 1957, Senator Estes Kefauver of Tennessee attempted unsuccessfully to pass a law restricting the importation and possession of switchblade knives. Opposition to the bill from the U.S. knifemaking industry was muted, with the exception of the Colonial Knife Co. and Schrade-Walden Inc., which were still manufacturing small quantities of pocket switchblades for the U.S. market. Some in the industry even supported the legislation, hoping to gain market share at the expense of Colonial and Schrade. However, the legislation failed to receive expected support from the U.S. Departments of Commerce and Justice, which considered the legislation unenforceable and an unwarranted intrusion into lawful sales in interstate commerce.

While Kefauver's bill failed, a new U.S. Senate bill prohibiting the importation or possession of switchblade knives in interstate commerce was introduced the following year by Democratic Senator Peter F. Mack, Jr. of Illinois in an attempt to reduce gang violence in Chicago and other urban centers in the state. With youth violence and delinquency aggravated by the severe economic recession, Mack's bill was enacted by Congress and signed into law as the Switchblade Knife Act of 1958. This U.S. federal law was closely followed by the UK Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act of 1959 and the inclusion of new-production automatic knives in the 1959 Criminal Code, Revised Statutes (Canada) as prohibited weapons banned from importation, sale or possession within that country. These laws did not distinguish between utility blade and stiletto or offensive switchblades, instead banning all switchblade knives as a category, including utility and general-purpose automatic knives not generally used by criminals. Curiously, the sale and possession of stilettos and other offensive knives using fixed or locked folding blades remained legal in most jurisdictions. As an anti-violence measure, the legislation clearly failed in the United States, as youth street gangs increasingly turned from bats and knives to handguns and rifles to settle their disputes over territory as well as income from prostitution, extortion, and illicit drug sales.


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As soon as you teach the cops to jump through a rip in the fabric of time. nt rrneck Jan 2013 #1
And you mention cops... AceWheeler Jan 2013 #37
Actually, cops are civilians as they are not military. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #39
Because your average every day garden variety gun rrneck Jan 2013 #40
These threads are funny, we can never have to many of them... snooper2 Jan 2013 #2
non-starter BainsBane Jan 2013 #3
I disagree Marrah_G Jan 2013 #4
I think that's overkill Taverner Jan 2013 #5
Stricter regulations and actually enforcing them HappyMe Jan 2013 #6
Only if the ban applies to and is enforced on every person, including criminals and police officers slackmaster Jan 2013 #7
If when a ban goes into effect and you do not turn in your weapons, you become a criminal. RC Jan 2013 #14
I don't own any weapons slackmaster Jan 2013 #45
I'm sure that some might turn in their guns. HappyMe Jan 2013 #51
Are you going to adopt the Japanese system of policing? hack89 Jan 2013 #8
Considered, and dismissed. bluedigger Jan 2013 #9
Disagree. Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #10
But they might be attacked by Russia! Animal Chin Jan 2013 #26
And Sarah Palin. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #31
Ah, Sarah Palin, the joke that refuses to go away. Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #41
Those who build subs deep in So Amer jungle vote Yes One_Life_To_Give Jan 2013 #11
I think it's useful to have someone pushing for extreme measures on the left Fumesucker Jan 2013 #12
I think extreme anti-gun arguments do less violence to civil rights overall cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #13
Like the 4th Amendment isn't already quaint and non-functional. RC Jan 2013 #17
I think the very idea of civil liberties is a quaint remnant of a bygone era. Fumesucker Jan 2013 #23
Thought provoking paragraph, Fumesucker... TeeYiYi Jan 2013 #42
I fear I'm coming to your second conclusion, myself. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #48
It's certainly refreshing, at least (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #16
Japan doesn't have 2.3 billion acres of farmland Recursion Jan 2013 #15
By killing off the predators preferred food, so the cows have more to eat. RC Jan 2013 #20
So you thinks your cows are more valuable than my kids? cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #21
Well, I was thinking more of chickens. Recursion Jan 2013 #22
Extreme Dpm12 Jan 2013 #18
If I DO need to protect myself then cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #27
Handguns should really be what we're talking about Animal Chin Jan 2013 #35
Exactly. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #50
Nope. Crepuscular Jan 2013 #19
Your OP is what's known in the parlance as "zealotry trolling" Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #24
I think it's also an example of not all trolling being bad Recursion Jan 2013 #25
It is not any kind of trolling cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #32
Really. Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #36
No, it's "you unreasonable people who want to outlaw AR-15s and high magazine clips, hey- Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #34
Your inability to follow simple rules of decency is noted cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #30
Sorry Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #33
Alert results JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #44
Pfffffft. I'm a "sacred cow"? Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #46
disagree Kali Jan 2013 #28
Nope, banning firearms will never happen in the US rightsideout Jan 2013 #29
If every gun is civilian hands was picked up and destroyed.. MicaelS Jan 2013 #38
I disagree with a complete ban. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2013 #43
Well obviously impractical here, but let's hypothesize dmallind Jan 2013 #47
Disagree Sissyk Jan 2013 #49
Impossible under the Bill of Rights. longship Jan 2013 #52
Have you ever had to shoot a six foot rattlesnake Ilsa Jan 2013 #53
How about devoting this energy toward something possible, like fighting poverty Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #54
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