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badtoworse

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16. If you were qualified to work at a higher than entry level, could you have done so?

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 09:10 PM

Jan 2012

If you were more productive than others at your pay grade, could they pay you more? I belonged to a union early in my career and was in that position. I was producing design drawings a lot faster than the more senior guys, but there was no way I could get paid any more than I was because my pay was fixed by the union contract. To add insult to injury, the shop steward gave me a hard time because I was making those guys look bad. That really soured me on unions. That was my first and only experience belonging to a union. I'm good at what I do and I think I've done a lot better on my own.

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So... It looks like Indiana is the next "Right to work" State [View all] w8liftinglady Jan 2012 OP

I worked in Arizona for a couple of years... SoapBox Jan 2012 #1

Would impoverished states recover under Right To Work laws? jody Jan 2012 #2

Cheap Labor Republicans Bandit Jan 2012 #4

OK but still it appears that right to work states may have slightly lower unemployment. nt jody Jan 2012 #5

Right to work for less? It's also the right to work for more if you're worth it. badtoworse Jan 2012 #11

Now overlay a food stamp map and a map that shows which states get the most Fed subsidies per capita nanabugg Jan 2012 #12

"Forced-Unionism State?????" What the hell kind of a term is that? 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #21

Proponents of right-to-work laws point to the Constitutional right to freedom of association, jody Feb 2012 #23

"Forced unionism" is a RIGHT-WING LIE. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #24

I noticed that right away. I lived in a right to works state most of my life and wages are low jwirr Feb 2012 #26

and cost of living is also low Dokkie Feb 2012 #32

I did not find that true in Minnesota when I moved from Iowa but I supposed it can be. jwirr Feb 2012 #39

Why should anyone be forced to join a union in order to work? badtoworse Jan 2012 #3

Over 92% of private sector workers do not belong to unions. That's more than the 51% required to jody Jan 2012 #7

I'm missing how that's relevant SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2012 #8

See #2 re forced unionism states. nt jody Jan 2012 #9

Workers vote to become union companies. The majority wins. It is a democratic process. Of course jwirr Feb 2012 #27

I believe "Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable jody Feb 2012 #38

I wasn't forced to join the union when I started working at Ford in 1973 NNN0LHI Jan 2012 #13

True SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2012 #14

What is there to go back and forth about? NNN0LHI Jan 2012 #17

It's not that cut and dried SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2012 #18

Reason why non union employees make as much as non union members in union shop standingtall Feb 2012 #41

That's the way it should be standingtall Feb 2012 #43

If you were qualified to work at a higher than entry level, could you have done so? badtoworse Jan 2012 #16

Who is most qualified is in the eye of the beholder NNN0LHI Jan 2012 #19

Everyone's experience is different and I agree with you about suck ups - I've seen 'em myself. badtoworse Jan 2012 #20

Because their employer makes it a condition of employment. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2012 #31

What you're describing is called a union shop badtoworse Feb 2012 #36

We're at war, but I don't think many of us realize it yet ecstatic Jan 2012 #6

Say goodbye to the tax base underpants Jan 2012 #10

Not sure why SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2012 #15

A union is strong as it's membership. This B Calm Feb 2012 #29

They're pining for days of old... hunter Feb 2012 #22

Canada's jobs are being outsourced to Indiana now laundry_queen Feb 2012 #25

E-mail from Indiana State Senator Phil Boots / Republican B Calm Feb 2012 #28

Dont believe a word you just said standingtall Feb 2012 #34

I hope the word you is in B Calm Feb 2012 #35

They get what they voted for. taught_me_patience Feb 2012 #30

Sorry to hear that. The race to the bottom continues. nt raccoon Feb 2012 #33

I can't beliece unionworks Feb 2012 #37

Freepers are learning how to B Calm Feb 2012 #40

"Right to work" is some of the most serious Orwellian shit as of late drokhole Feb 2012 #42