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2naSalit

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14. First of all
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jan 2013

this doesn't require "magic" and there are a fair number of us actually do have viable solutions, many are really well thought out and designs/prototypes already constructed. What the problem is has to do with too many people addicted to fads, the junk that is the reward of buying into the fad and market strategies. It's how we got here and it will need to change... first.

I personally have a large notebook full of solution sets for feeding communities, eliminating food deserts, and alternative power generation, and ecological housing structures that are storm-safe for most events. But you know what the brick wall is? Major power and fossil fuel generator corporations, banks who are in bed with them, Monsanto (and I have a solution for that too) and finding enough people, in this country in particular, who can get look away from their iphones long enough to realize they have to participate... and stupid people/zombies.

I used to share my ideas but I have also been burned by doing so as those with whom I shared took my ideas, made money off of them and threw acid in my face, figuratively speaking. yeah, if I had a few million bucks, I already know what I would do with it that would help a countless number of others... so if I had the money, I'd be putting it where my mouth and mind are.

It's doable, individual will power join in a collective effort ~ a shift in our social values ~ and a little cash is all that's needed. But too many Americans think they are living "the dream" and not realizing they have been seduced into perpetuating their own demise for the enrichment of a few.

So the answer is yes, and it's yes for both equality and stifling climate change but only if we do it really soon. The growth thing is a situation that will diminish with the social values shift, "growth" is marketing terminology designed to make us think that making money for your slave owner is the best thing in the world.

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No, we can't continue growing. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #1
You waste enough H2O brushing your teeth to water a village leftstreet Jan 2013 #2
Beg pardon? derby378 Jan 2013 #16
To be fair... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #20
Domestic water use is a fairly small part of the overall amount muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #25
I was referring more to what it takes to bring it to the tap NoOneMan Jan 2013 #27
Another good argument against Tar Sand development Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2013 #32
Argue until you are blue in the face NoOneMan Jan 2013 #33
yup Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2013 #34
I agree. I really think it is too late. Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #56
Speak for yourself TxRider Jan 2013 #52
Way to go! NoOneMan Jan 2013 #54
I live on a community well pscot Jan 2013 #17
Succinctly done. immoderate Jan 2013 #5
"and their footprint" NoOneMan Jan 2013 #9
When I had presentations.... NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #13
The global average standard of living can increase, but... Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #3
How? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #6
You're half right pscot Jan 2013 #18
Americans gave up healthcare so Canadians could have it? leftstreet Jan 2013 #29
Where did that come from? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #41
You suggested it leftstreet Jan 2013 #43
Aside from your strange Canada/America example, it very well mean this NoOneMan Jan 2013 #55
Check this out regarding global emissions.... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #30
It's not the size of our economy, it's our income distribution that's the problem. pampango Jan 2013 #59
I'm not sure why growth and equality are lumped together. RedCappedBandit Jan 2013 #4
Can they not be? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #7
Aye, there's the rub. rrneck Jan 2013 #8
Sure, once our CEOs and shareholders lose their entitlement mentality Recursion Jan 2013 #10
This level of profit promotes disparity, and disparity throttles growth NoOneMan Jan 2013 #12
i'll be the buzzkill datasuspect Jan 2013 #11
First of all 2naSalit Jan 2013 #14
These ideas can't do anything for the global situation unless implemented en masse NoOneMan Jan 2013 #15
I agree with about 2naSalit Jan 2013 #24
"If a sizable group of people..." NoOneMan Jan 2013 #28
I doubt we can do a thing about climate change at this point. JVS Jan 2013 #19
So all this talk about equality and making a better world... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #22
New technologies and new expansion? cbrer Jan 2013 #21
Ok, the magic of technology NoOneMan Jan 2013 #23
Tangible Proof? cbrer Jan 2013 #36
Yes, like a non-faith-based reason to continue our pursuit of "progress" NoOneMan Jan 2013 #37
You think I meant religion? cbrer Jan 2013 #38
"Technology got us to this place." NoOneMan Jan 2013 #39
You effectively shoot down every suggestion cbrer Jan 2013 #40
Sure did NoOneMan Jan 2013 #42
"bring civilization back to the drawing board immediately" cbrer Jan 2013 #44
Yes, and then we get a reboot (whatever that means) NoOneMan Jan 2013 #47
with technology and good governance we can samsingh Jan 2013 #26
A good government will make climate change illegal? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #31
agreed samsingh Jan 2013 #35
Human need vs human greed YoungDemCA Jan 2013 #45
Go vegan. n/t flvegan Jan 2013 #46
Hunted meat probably has a lower footprint than farmed foods NoOneMan Jan 2013 #48
On an individual basis? Stipulated. flvegan Jan 2013 #49
About 78 billion tons of carbon is lost from our soil from agriculture NoOneMan Jan 2013 #51
Can billionaires prosper while kicking global warming? daleo Jan 2013 #50
Resistance to the change originates in a growth obsessed system... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #53
Average people don't have a lot of say in these matters daleo Jan 2013 #57
Climate change should take priority over growth and equality. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #58
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