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DallasNE

(8,018 posts)
67. Think -- And Use Google
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 07:42 PM
Jan 2013

There are two branches in Congress. Republican filibusters in the Senate meant that measures passed by the House died with a Senate filibuster. Democrats only had 60 Senate votes between the time Sen. Spector switched parties and Sen. Brown was elected, minus the time Sen. Kennedy was too ill to vote -- in other words about 6-7 months. Republicans can indeed be held accountable for those filibusters. As far as the baseline argument goes, they are simply wrong. The numbers below were gleaned from Table 5.1 in the following link. 2001 is Clinton's last budget, 2009 is Bush's last budget with 2008 and 2009 shown to help reflect the special items. And here we are not talking about a budget but "budget authority", which is appropriations.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals

2001 2008 2009 2010 % Increase 2001-2010
1.959T 3.326T 4.077T 3.485T 78% Total Budget Authority

2001 2010
217.1B 452.6B 108% Medicare

334.7B 721.3B Defense Department
20.2B 60.6B State Department
47.5B 124.4B Veterans Affairs
______ ______
402.4B 906.3B 125% (Defense related)


(I hope the formatting doesn't get skewed when I hit "post&quot .

As you can see, if 2009 was the baseline then 2010 and subsequent years would somewhat mirror 2009 when they actually mirror 2008.

Also, where do you suppose you could find the most cuts -- where current spending is 254.6B or 906.3B -- or for that matter, where cost have gone up 108% or 125%. I will bet that few people realize that defense related spending has been going up even faster than Medicare -- and keep in mind that Medicare contains the prescription drug benefit for seniors in that 108% increase. Check out some of the other Tables as well.

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Now if all of PRESIDENT Obama's critics would show the same respect. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #1
Not gonna happen--some people make it their life's work. MADem Jan 2013 #2
+1000 eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #10
so true. Not too many people apologize, admit when they're wrong or clear the record. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #19
+2000 Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #24
isnt that the truth! Vietnameravet Jan 2013 #37
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2013 #54
you need to add, "when they are wrong" Skittles Jan 2013 #7
Around here?? LOL! That'll be the day Gman Jan 2013 #9
Nope get the bus ready for Krugman. grantcart Jan 2013 #15
Krugman already has a special seat on the bus: it's a Ferris wheel JHB Jan 2013 #66
I refuse. thebard77 Jan 2013 #42
I, too will admit I was wrong. jerseyjack Jan 2013 #43
Krugman's criticisms are actually based on policy Scootaloo Jan 2013 #51
Rec'd, and props to Krugman. nt babylonsister Jan 2013 #3
Paul always admits when he is wrong. dawg Jan 2013 #4
The odds were in Paul's favor. Every once in a while, you're wrong in predicting behavior mmonk Jan 2013 #5
+ 1 n/t ejbr Jan 2013 #25
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"all white squares" klook Jan 2013 #44
The big difference between progressives and conservatives is exemplary here. gtar100 Jan 2013 #11
K & R Scurrilous Jan 2013 #12
I have never seen Krugman wrong on anything but here it shows that he is not a big blowhard. CTyankee Jan 2013 #13
Krugman has been wrong in the past, but it's usually been in certain areas... JHB Jan 2013 #65
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Of course he has, and that's great; but, he has a powerful wind behind his back, while Obama has juajen Jan 2013 #26
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It has ever been so. Doc Holliday Jan 2013 #60
Kudos to Krugman too Babel_17 Jan 2013 #21
All Right Now I am Completely Lost... humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #22
Presumption Of Truth In Right Wing Talking Points Is First Mistake DallasNE Jan 2013 #29
Yes, their premise is off humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #48
Again, You Seem To Be Confusing Budget And Appropriations DallasNE Jan 2013 #52
I used your appropriations argument humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #64
Think -- And Use Google DallasNE Jan 2013 #67
It's not quite over. gulliver Jan 2013 #27
The fat lady isn't even warmed up. hay rick Jan 2013 #38
I keep telling you guys Obama plays chess the rest of us plays checkers Coolest Ranger Jan 2013 #28
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