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cbrer

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38. You think I meant religion?
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 10:07 PM
Jan 2013

Technology got us to this place. I have every reason to believe it can get us out. Will it? I doubt it. You must be familiar with the greed, short sightedness, and lack of will of the elecorate (unless it involves guns apparently) to change our path.

We have the technology now. Right now. To convert 33% of our power use to solar. We could also follow Brazils example of using 75%ethanol instead of gasoline. Modern (and not so) car engines require amazingly little tuning to run efficiently off of ethanol. EFI is a very good thing. Talks were happening before NASA got chopped, to research putting a solar belt around the earth. Terrawatts of power 24/7.

Don't get me wrong. It's a START. Not a complete solution. Our nation and it's adherent political realities, make it almost impossible to pursue these goals. You can vote Democrat, Republican, Independent, or Micky Mouse. The required elements for the drastic course correction that's required are absent.

The will to succeed does NOT exist. Our spoiled, short sighted culture believes too much of the crap spewed from FAUX News. And our crooked political system hasn't fixed ONE of our major problems in at least the last 30 years. And has created many.

IOW, we have the capability, without resorting to gods or prayers. But waiting for solid proof before we act is bullshit. And your views on production and application of technology are just plain wrong. It's not magic. Much has already been extracted from the earth. And a solar panels primary ingredient is sand.

You know what the funniest part of this is? The leap of faith that's required, was expressed centuries ago. And holds the key to a move in the right direction. Jesus said it (supposedly). "Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you". Who knew? The big guy was right all along!

The will to succeed is what's missing from the equation. All other factors are present.

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No, we can't continue growing. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #1
You waste enough H2O brushing your teeth to water a village leftstreet Jan 2013 #2
Beg pardon? derby378 Jan 2013 #16
To be fair... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #20
Domestic water use is a fairly small part of the overall amount muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #25
I was referring more to what it takes to bring it to the tap NoOneMan Jan 2013 #27
Another good argument against Tar Sand development Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2013 #32
Argue until you are blue in the face NoOneMan Jan 2013 #33
yup Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2013 #34
I agree. I really think it is too late. Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #56
Speak for yourself TxRider Jan 2013 #52
Way to go! NoOneMan Jan 2013 #54
I live on a community well pscot Jan 2013 #17
Succinctly done. immoderate Jan 2013 #5
"and their footprint" NoOneMan Jan 2013 #9
When I had presentations.... NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #13
The global average standard of living can increase, but... Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #3
How? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #6
You're half right pscot Jan 2013 #18
Americans gave up healthcare so Canadians could have it? leftstreet Jan 2013 #29
Where did that come from? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #41
You suggested it leftstreet Jan 2013 #43
Aside from your strange Canada/America example, it very well mean this NoOneMan Jan 2013 #55
Check this out regarding global emissions.... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #30
It's not the size of our economy, it's our income distribution that's the problem. pampango Jan 2013 #59
I'm not sure why growth and equality are lumped together. RedCappedBandit Jan 2013 #4
Can they not be? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #7
Aye, there's the rub. rrneck Jan 2013 #8
Sure, once our CEOs and shareholders lose their entitlement mentality Recursion Jan 2013 #10
This level of profit promotes disparity, and disparity throttles growth NoOneMan Jan 2013 #12
i'll be the buzzkill datasuspect Jan 2013 #11
First of all 2naSalit Jan 2013 #14
These ideas can't do anything for the global situation unless implemented en masse NoOneMan Jan 2013 #15
I agree with about 2naSalit Jan 2013 #24
"If a sizable group of people..." NoOneMan Jan 2013 #28
I doubt we can do a thing about climate change at this point. JVS Jan 2013 #19
So all this talk about equality and making a better world... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #22
New technologies and new expansion? cbrer Jan 2013 #21
Ok, the magic of technology NoOneMan Jan 2013 #23
Tangible Proof? cbrer Jan 2013 #36
Yes, like a non-faith-based reason to continue our pursuit of "progress" NoOneMan Jan 2013 #37
You think I meant religion? cbrer Jan 2013 #38
"Technology got us to this place." NoOneMan Jan 2013 #39
You effectively shoot down every suggestion cbrer Jan 2013 #40
Sure did NoOneMan Jan 2013 #42
"bring civilization back to the drawing board immediately" cbrer Jan 2013 #44
Yes, and then we get a reboot (whatever that means) NoOneMan Jan 2013 #47
with technology and good governance we can samsingh Jan 2013 #26
A good government will make climate change illegal? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #31
agreed samsingh Jan 2013 #35
Human need vs human greed YoungDemCA Jan 2013 #45
Go vegan. n/t flvegan Jan 2013 #46
Hunted meat probably has a lower footprint than farmed foods NoOneMan Jan 2013 #48
On an individual basis? Stipulated. flvegan Jan 2013 #49
About 78 billion tons of carbon is lost from our soil from agriculture NoOneMan Jan 2013 #51
Can billionaires prosper while kicking global warming? daleo Jan 2013 #50
Resistance to the change originates in a growth obsessed system... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #53
Average people don't have a lot of say in these matters daleo Jan 2013 #57
Climate change should take priority over growth and equality. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #58
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