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In reply to the discussion: Thought-provoking article: "What 'Lincoln' misses and another Civil War film gets right".... [View all]struggle4progress
(126,192 posts)113. Oration in Memory of Abraham Lincoln (Frederick Douglass 1876)
April 14, 1876
Delivered at the Unveiling of The Freedmens Monument in Memory of Abraham Lincoln
Lincoln Park, Washington, D.C.
He was preeminently the white mans President, entirely devoted to the welfare of white men. He was ready and willing at any time during the first years of his administration to deny, postpone, and sacrifice the rights of humanity in the colored people to promote the welfare of the white people of this country ... He came into the Presidential chair upon one principle alone, namely, opposition to the extension of slavery. His arguments in furtherance of this policy had their motive and mainspring in his patriotic devotion to the interests of his own race. To protect, defend, and perpetuate slavery in the states where it existed Abraham Lincoln was not less ready than any other President to draw the sword of the nation. He was ready to execute all the supposed guarantees of the United States Constitution in favor of the slave system anywhere inside the slave states. He was willing to pursue, recapture, and send back the fugitive slave to his master, and to suppress a slave rising for liberty, though his guilty master were already in arms against the Government. The race to which we belong were not the special objects of his consideration ... You are the children of Abraham Lincoln. We are at best only his step-children; children by adoption, children by forces of circumstances and necessity ... Instead of supplanting you at his altar, we would exhort you to build high his monuments; let them be of the most costly material, of the most cunning workmanship; let their forms be symmetrical, beautiful, and perfect, let their bases be upon solid rocks, and their summits lean against the unchanging blue, overhanging sky, and let them endure forever! ...
... The name of Abraham Lincoln was near and dear to our hearts in the darkest and most perilous hours of the Republic. We were no more ashamed of him when shrouded in clouds of darkness, of doubt, and defeat than when we saw him crowned with victory, honor, and glory. Our faith in him was often taxed and strained to the uttermost, but it never failed. When he tarried long in the mountain; when he strangely told us that we were the cause of the war; when he still more strangely told us that we were to leave the land in which we were born; when he refused to employ our arms in defense of the Union; when, after accepting our services as colored soldiers, he refused to retaliate our murder and torture as colored prisoners; when he told us he would save the Union if he could with slavery; when he revoked the Proclamation of Emancipation of General Fremont; when he refused to remove the popular commander of the Army of the Potomac, in the days of its inaction and defeat, who was more zealous in his efforts to protect slavery than to suppress rebellion; when we saw all this, and more, we were at times grieved, stunned, and greatly bewildered; but our hearts believed while they ached and bled ...
I have said that President Lincoln was a white man, and shared the prejudices common to his countrymen towards the colored race. Looking back to his times and to the condition of his country, we are compelled to admit that this unfriendly feeling on his part may be safely set down as one element of his wonderful success in organizing the loyal American people for the tremendous conflict before them, and bringing them safely through that conflict. His great mission was to accomplish two things: first, to save his country from dismemberment and ruin; and, second, to free his country from the great crime of slavery. To do one or the other, or both, he must have the earnest sympathy and the powerful cooperation of his loyal fellow-countrymen ... Viewed from the genuine abolition ground, Mr. Lincoln seemed tardy, cold, dull, and indifferent; but measuring him by the sentiment of his country, a sentiment he was bound as a statesman to consult, he was swift, zealous, radical, and determined.
Though Mr. Lincoln shared the prejudices of his white fellow-countrymen against the Negro, it is hardly necessary to say that in his heart of hearts he loathed and hated slavery. The man who could say, "Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war shall soon pass away, yet if God wills it continue till all the wealth piled by two hundred years of bondage shall have been wasted, and each drop of blood drawn by the lash shall have been paid for by one drawn by the sword, the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether," gives all needed proof of his feeling on the subject of slavery ...
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Thought-provoking article: "What 'Lincoln' misses and another Civil War film gets right".... [View all]
OldDem2012
Jan 2013
OP
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plethoro
Jan 2013
#31
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plethoro
Jan 2013
#52
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plethoro
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#69
What does that have to do with it? Thomas Moore was an English hero in England. Lincoln was an
plethoro
Jan 2013
#49
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plethoro
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#53
Yes, Thomas Cromwell. That's why I talked about his 'master', ie Henry VIII,
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2013
#54
Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, riding through the land. Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, musket in his hand
Bucky
Jan 2013
#82
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Jan 2013
#104
Really? You reserve that right? Lol! So, who's funding your movie and when's it coming out?
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Jan 2013
#108
the real problem is thinking Quentin Tarentino is an artiste'. No, he is not
graham4anything
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#106
So instead of turning to the class and saying, "See, this is what you are supposed to do.
jtuck004
Jan 2013
#45
the historian in the CNN video questions their portrayal of the 13th amendment battle
Enrique
Jan 2013
#32
Abigail received a slave as gift or inheritance. John said no slave will ever live in my house.
jody
Jan 2013
#6
John Adams was a northerner. He did not live from cotton or the other crops of the South.
JDPriestly
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jody
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#58
Are you suggesting that slavery or the master/servant relationship is inevitable in the workplace.
JDPriestly
Jan 2013
#88
I said nothing about a "master/servant relationship" only the impact of a technological economy.
jody
Jan 2013
#90
Actually, in some human produced disaster, brawn could well be just as important as brains.
JDPriestly
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#91
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jody
Jan 2013
#13
I do not believe that a woman who is a slave can truly consent to sex with her master.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2013
#70
Ummm.... yes, I'm speculating. For some reason I never saw the video surveillance footage.
Nye Bevan
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#73
Here's some FACTS that might help you out (along with some contextualizing speculation)
Bucky
Jan 2013
#84
Spielberg's film gives a non human view of Lincoln, I'll tolerate his faults knowing the good...
uponit7771
Jan 2013
#9
Lincoln was a product of his time. We should surprised that he held belief's common to that time.
Agnosticsherbet
Jan 2013
#27
Yes, I read that Lincoln did not recycle aluminum, tin, paper, glass and cardboard either.
The Midway Rebel
Jan 2013
#29
That Lincoln's views on race prior to becoming president were typical of his time
JDPriestly
Jan 2013
#35
I was expecting this to be a comparison to Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter. n/t
ellisonz
Jan 2013
#48
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Lint Head
Jan 2013
#64
I loved "Lincoln". I think any film about an important historical figure is going to provoke a lot
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#65
... on January 1, 1864 ... Congressman Isaac Arnold, paid a New Years Day call on Mr. Lincoln.
struggle4progress
Jan 2013
#112
... For the first time in my life, and I suppose the first time in any colored man's life,
struggle4progress
Jan 2013
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