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MadHound

(34,179 posts)
25. LOL!
Mon Jan 21, 2013, 12:10 PM
Jan 2013

"Under capitalism at least the individual has the right to ownership"

Do you own your house? No, you don't, not if you have a mortgage, the bank owns it. Even if your house is paid off, it can still be seized by the government for any number of reasons, failure to pay taxes, eminent domain, or having a few dope seeds lying around inconveniently.

In fact just about anything you "own" can be seized under the right circumstances, and sometimes no circumstances at all.

As far as which is better, that depends upon what form of capitalism or socialism that you're talking about. Capitalism, as we knew it forty-seventy years ago, actually worked well, because it was heavily regulated, and we had a strong social safety net in place to assist those who got hammered by the system. However today's capitalism is an entirely different animal. Poorly regulated, predatory, and frankly it has bought the government. Our social safety net is being shredded before our eyes, and those who can't make it out there are left to fend for themselves, or die.

Socialism has, and can work. Don't look at Cuba(though I actually think that it would have worked much better if the US hadn't made a concerted effort to destroy Cuba economically), but rather at Native Americans. They lived a pretty ideal socialist lifestyle, where virtually everything was owned in common. Granted, the kicker is how to scale that up from a tribal society to a much larger national society, but there it is.

But hey, thanks for being so very condescending, giving me definitions and everything like I'm some sort of sixth grader. For your information, I know quite a bit more about economics, socialism and capitalism than your trite little definitions, and probably more than you do in general. But hey, it makes you feel so very superior to be so very condescending, doesn't it.

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I don't agree. Cary Jan 2013 #1
Nice in the ideal, impossible in terms of the practical. MadHound Jan 2013 #2
MadHound, I agree. dotymed Jan 2013 #4
Citizens United should have clued you in. AlbertCat Jan 2013 #11
And, if you haven't noticed, the way to counter big money is to organize. Cary Jan 2013 #23
It can work very well within a framework of an absolute (small 'c') communistic society. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #28
If you lived in China, you would see its success as a product of Communism. grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #5
What makes you think China has "succeeded?" Cary Jan 2013 #24
Because they have all our jobs. grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #32
Not really. Cary Jan 2013 #33
Yes, really. It's that simple. Communism WIN. grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #34
Brilliant "analysis" Cary Jan 2013 #36
Competition modrepub Jan 2013 #8
Guess who will get the dough? kenichol Jan 2013 #14
Who will get the dough?!? modrepub Jan 2013 #31
And I've been an activist in my little corner of the world nt kenichol Feb 2013 #38
+1 Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #9
Mystical Thinking kenichol Jan 2013 #12
How unequal are we? kenichol Jan 2013 #21
Yep, a secular dogma obviously inconsistent with the facts. bemildred Jan 2013 #3
Capitalism has failed. Communism provides the worlds manufactured goods. grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #6
We get into trouble ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #10
We're evolving into The Wizard Jan 2013 #7
Capitalism as it is today needs to die libtodeath Jan 2013 #13
Democratic Socialism kenichol Jan 2013 #15
Denmark and Sweden are capitalist countries. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #16
It is America's lack of patriotism siligut Jan 2013 #18
Too many Americans where 'patriotism' on their sleeves but do not really care about other Americans pampango Jan 2013 #19
Too many people do not know the definitions of the things they complain about thetonka Jan 2013 #17
Under capitalism, only a handful own everything. That's how it ultimately works out. valerief Jan 2013 #20
Socialism is wonderful. Until the pigs keep all of the warm mash for themselves. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #22
LOL! MadHound Jan 2013 #25
I agree with everything you post thetonka Jan 2013 #27
Capone is closer to the heart of the matter than it might appear starroute Jan 2013 #26
K&R! Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #29
An excellent MLK quote on the subject: Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #30
rec limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #35
Does anything else work better? davidthegnome Jan 2013 #37
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