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In reply to the discussion: I agree with Anonymous about this... Do you? [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)21. Unfortunately, his motivation was edited after the fact.
The assertion that Manning leaked the information because he wanted to reveal "bad" activities by the US was added after-the-fact. His statements at the time of the leak do not support this assertion.
It also suffers from Manning not actually leaking anything that reveals "bad" activity. Even the "collateral murder" video matched the official, and already public, investigation. We just now have video matching the same story. If his intent was to reveal "bad" activities, he would presumably have leaked some.
but the information he let us see was already known by every foreign government with even a minimal spy service
That's not something we can actually say.
For example, Manning leaked a lot of information about the optics systems in Apache helicopters by leaking the "collateral murder" video. I have no idea what, if anything, is classified about those optics, but it's an example that shows he leaked more than just the content on the pages.
Plus there's the whole thing of our sources getting executed and reluctance of any future sources, but hey, that's a small price for having no effect on our imperial wars.
Oh, what, the government officially said they couldn't show harm? Well, take a nanosecond to think about it - the harm would be classified! So of course they "can't show" any harm to the public.
As for the length of his imprisonment so far, that's the doing of his defense team. He waived his speedy trial right in order to give his team more time to prepare.
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You're having a lot of trouble wrapping your head around the fact that this incident was legal.
jeff47
Jan 2013
#73
Jeremy Hammond and possibly Barrett Brown. Swartz and Manning already having been mentioned.
Fire Walk With Me
Jan 2013
#39
Don't forget the guys who brought down the global economy not getting arrested, while
Squinch
Jan 2013
#3
Not to mention all of the people who lost their homes to foreclosure based on the....
OldDem2012
Jan 2013
#32
plus a gazillion. There is a story on the home page about church men hiding child rape
roguevalley
Jan 2013
#10
The system is broken, really broken. Neither party seems to want to fix it.
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
Jan 2013
#12
You're preaching to the choir, but pointing these things out or even speaking of them
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
Jan 2013
#69
Two for two. The link was not between internet activists and rapists. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2013
#23
Batting 1.000. Both of my parents were psychologists and my girlfriend wrote on
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2013
#28
What game are YOU playing and how have you managed to survive this long? nt.
OldDem2012
Jan 2013
#33
The tweet didn't make that link. Everybody but you understands that. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2013
#40
A very dirty GOP world if we don't stop them asap. Thank you for everything you do for us, Anon
judesedit
Jan 2013
#41
When a dope smoker is getting a longer sentence than a drunk driver who kills - that's cray-cray!
VPStoltz
Jan 2013
#43
Absolutely. Thank God for Anonymous and friends. We'd really be screwed without them.
judesedit
Jan 2013
#70
Be careful Anonymous. They are trying to find you big-time I am sure. Thanks for all of us.
judesedit
Jan 2013
#72