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In reply to the discussion: I agree with Anonymous about this... Do you? [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)37. And that wasn't new.
Again, "collateral murder" showed exactly what the official report said happened.
And, thanks to Private Manning, the U.S. government has no recourse but to admit that is exactly the kind of thing they have done
Except the US government already said it happened before the video was leaked. And the video showed that the official report wasn't hiding anything.
Any investigation of that incident now ongoing is because Manning's courage made it impossible for the Army not to investigate.
Except the army had already investigated the incident and released a public report before Manning leaked anything.
Why do you think they haven't investigated other such butchery, or do you really believe nothing like this ever happened before?
Here's the thing: People die in wars. Those innocent people included someone who was armed, and someone who was holding a large TV camera which was mistaken for a shoulder-fired anti-tank weapon. That miss-identification happens a lot, because they look similar.
So yes, they got killed over one AK-47 and a TV camera. But that, in and of itself, isn't a scandal. The fact that incidents like this are what just happens in war is the fucking reason to oppose war!
Would you rather he had made public documents which really are "Top Secret" and need to be kept so for the good of our national defense?
Manning only had a SECRET clearance. He didn't have access to any TOP SECRET information to leak. There was no discretion on Manning's part. In fact, he leaked everything he could get a hold of.
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You're having a lot of trouble wrapping your head around the fact that this incident was legal.
jeff47
Jan 2013
#73
Jeremy Hammond and possibly Barrett Brown. Swartz and Manning already having been mentioned.
Fire Walk With Me
Jan 2013
#39
Don't forget the guys who brought down the global economy not getting arrested, while
Squinch
Jan 2013
#3
Not to mention all of the people who lost their homes to foreclosure based on the....
OldDem2012
Jan 2013
#32
plus a gazillion. There is a story on the home page about church men hiding child rape
roguevalley
Jan 2013
#10
The system is broken, really broken. Neither party seems to want to fix it.
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
Jan 2013
#12
You're preaching to the choir, but pointing these things out or even speaking of them
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
Jan 2013
#69
Two for two. The link was not between internet activists and rapists. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2013
#23
Batting 1.000. Both of my parents were psychologists and my girlfriend wrote on
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2013
#28
What game are YOU playing and how have you managed to survive this long? nt.
OldDem2012
Jan 2013
#33
The tweet didn't make that link. Everybody but you understands that. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2013
#40
A very dirty GOP world if we don't stop them asap. Thank you for everything you do for us, Anon
judesedit
Jan 2013
#41
When a dope smoker is getting a longer sentence than a drunk driver who kills - that's cray-cray!
VPStoltz
Jan 2013
#43
Absolutely. Thank God for Anonymous and friends. We'd really be screwed without them.
judesedit
Jan 2013
#70
Be careful Anonymous. They are trying to find you big-time I am sure. Thanks for all of us.
judesedit
Jan 2013
#72