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311. Maybe you

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:50 AM

Jan 2013

"Of course we are talking a bout collateral damage"

...you are, but the points being made aren't about "collateral damage." The notion is that the President is intentionally killing civilians, and those who object to the characterization support killing civlians.

"While the President dances, innocents mourn their dead, dead at the President's hand."

Question for those who support unfettered use of drones to kill civilians:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2237714

Naturally, targetting civilians for death is anti-Obama.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2237864

He is the CinC, he does have his own personal kill list, he does give the orders
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2236253

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While the President dances, innocents mourn their dead, dead at the President's hand. [View all] MadHound Jan 2013 OP

If the world hates us because President Obama is a fine dancer..... Swamp Lover Jan 2013 #1

No, the world hates us because the president continues to kill innocents abroad, MadHound Jan 2013 #3

"if my loved ones were dying while the President danced, I'd be looking for revenge myself." uppityperson Jan 2013 #5

Me too krawhitham Jan 2013 #72

Posting here just to get this pic near the top of the thread... SidDithers Jan 2013 #103

I will second that. Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #143

Stop killing innocents zipplewrath Jan 2013 #334

Most of the time we're there at a government's request. randome Jan 2013 #336

When they start firing warheads from drones zipplewrath Jan 2013 #359

Now you're drifting into tinfoil hat territory. randome Jan 2013 #363

Not the only way zipplewrath Jan 2013 #376

For the most part, I think I'll leave military decisions to the experts. randome Jan 2013 #382

They got to Ossama zipplewrath Jan 2013 #389

In other words, you think the American government is killing people it could arrest because... randome Jan 2013 #409

Because it's easy zipplewrath Jan 2013 #410

I know the answer is to stop, but my question is why is it still happening Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #365

Because Obama chooses to zipplewrath Jan 2013 #377

I'm really trying to understand this, and not make excuses Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #380

The bubble zipplewrath Jan 2013 #388

He is reading 'top secret' PDBs on a daily basis that he doesn't 'produce' himself Amonester Jan 2013 #400

Bush II zipplewrath Jan 2013 #408

Gorgeous pic, Sid. Thanks for posting the dancing photo. nt DevonRex Jan 2013 #189

226 Replies, only 16 recs. I guess that says it all. louis c Jan 2013 #226

That's the kicker though, MadHound Jan 2013 #233

With boots on the ground, both American lives and innocent Yemenis will be killed. randome Jan 2013 #240

How about doing neither, MadHound Jan 2013 #241

Drone strikes are pretty much considered 'surgical strikes'. randome Jan 2013 #250

Umm, don't you get it? MadHound Jan 2013 #251

Google it. Al-Qaeda is in Yemen, too. randome Jan 2013 #254

I guess you haven't seen the status of forces agreement that Obama and Kharzi recently signed, MadHound Jan 2013 #264

Here is some of what Al-Qaeda is up to in Yemen. randome Jan 2013 #256

Such actions are, unfortuneately, far too common around the world, MadHound Jan 2013 #267

Not at all. America is neither perfect nor consistent. randome Jan 2013 #305

Lovely shot, Sid. Thanks for posting it! greatauntoftriplets Jan 2013 #249

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #386

The world doesn't really hate us. At least not most of it. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #7

Large parts of it do, MadHound Jan 2013 #10

I'm sure the ones who don't.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #32

a lot of the world does love this president. Still he's just one man. I think he is doing his best. Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #146

Nah. That part of the world has always hated us and will always hate us. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #184

Parts of the world have hated the US a lot longer than President Obama's administration lunatica Jan 2013 #221

75% in Pakistan and Yemen. I think the opinions of people that we are terrorizing Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #21

OP didn't say Pakistan and Yemen, he said "the world" and he is not right. nt stevenleser Jan 2013 #28

Nope, he said "around the world". And he is right. Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #37

No, he is not right. Do I need to start posting links to stats? nt stevenleser Jan 2013 #40

Around the world does not mean the entire world. And that is that. Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #59

He did not say around the world, he said "The World Hates Us" Why would you blatantly say something stevenleser Jan 2013 #63

Ah, I was referencing the OP (I missed #3). Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #77

Yes, "there are people in countries around the world that hate us". JaneyVee Jan 2013 #70

The people who we terrorize on a regular basis hate us. MLK on Vietnam Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #80

Look at post #3 leftynyc Jan 2013 #243

Get rid of all your guns, then we'll talk. Or register them if that becomes law. DevonRex Jan 2013 #124

Have I killed anybody with my guns? No. MadHound Jan 2013 #128

Dude, I don't know you from Adam. DevonRex Jan 2013 #135

Funny thing about that post, MadHound Jan 2013 #137

hahaha. DevonRex Jan 2013 #140

Ahhh, the final piece of the puzzle. Thank You DevonRex!!!!! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #403

You're quite welcome! DevonRex Jan 2013 #404

It does indeed. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #406

I just love.... ShadesOfBlue Jan 2013 #176

Here, don't believe me, then perhaps you will believe the UN MadHound Jan 2013 #181

"our drone strikes are killing hundreds and thousands of innocents"? Turborama Jan 2013 #194

Here, MadHound Jan 2013 #210

Nothing like hundreds of thousands, or even 10s of thousands Turborama Jan 2013 #216

Please go back and reread my post for comprehension this time instead of the quick snark, MadHound Jan 2013 #219

My mistake. However, it's either hundreds or thousands Turborama Jan 2013 #223

Well, if you want to get into an argument about semantics, MadHound Jan 2013 #229

"hundreds and thousands" doesn't mean anything arely staircase Jan 2013 #230

The world does not hate us leftynyc Jan 2013 #242

Well, large parts of it do, MadHound Jan 2013 #245

No - they don't leftynyc Jan 2013 #252

No, not just one part, MadHound Jan 2013 #261

Before I click on an unfamiliar site leftynyc Jan 2013 #280

MAD PROPS! on the timing of this OP... snooper2 Jan 2013 #317

I don't get it. randome Jan 2013 #333

you mean the name of the band? snooper2 Jan 2013 #345

Sorry, I can't watch videos at work. I was just going by the caption. randome Jan 2013 #348

I wasn't aware he killed anybody, either shenmue Jan 2013 #16

Well, now you are, it's all there in black and white. MadHound Jan 2013 #62

168 Pakistani children dead from US drone strikes, and counting: Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #68

How dare he dance at the inaugural ball!1! JNelson6563 Jan 2013 #2

Funny, not only does Obama dance at the inaugural ball like Bush did, MadHound Jan 2013 #6

People are blind to what their team does. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #106

Oh look! More bullshit! JNelson6563 Jan 2013 #228

16 members have rec'd it after currently 3,491 views Turborama Jan 2013 #234

Well gee, "harping" on an issue is the only way that we the people can change policy, MadHound Jan 2013 #235

Unrec. n/t BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #4

+1 krawhitham Jan 2013 #73

And on cue.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #8

It's not nice to steal others people bandwidth. RC Jan 2013 #36

Can't we be allowed to have Just. One. Day. Hekate Jan 2013 #9

Apparently not ellisonz Jan 2013 #11

Death never rests apparently, MadHound Jan 2013 #12

Do you really think quoting leftynyc Jan 2013 #246

Perhaps Obama could have waited one freaking day before killing more innocents, MadHound Jan 2013 #248

Or I could just put you on ignore leftynyc Jan 2013 #253

You may do so if you wish, MadHound Jan 2013 #262

Tis what I do leftynyc Jan 2013 #282

Hey! It's the "I have tons of guns!" guy. easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #260

+1 obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #15

MadHound always intends to disrupt and hurt his fellow DUers. thats his game. DevonRex Jan 2013 #20

Odd, MadHound's posts don't bother me any more than they did when Dubya was resident Fumesucker Jan 2013 #42

Consistency is now a sign of lunacy. Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #61

I think they only bother those that live in very carefully crafted denial bubbles. nm rhett o rick Jan 2013 #65

"disrupt and hurt his fellow DUers." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #88

I'd have to agree with that. it's psychological warfare. No solutions, either. freshwest Jan 2013 #113

Yeah. Gunowner, too, who said he'd break the law and refuse to register his weapons DevonRex Jan 2013 #127

Libertarian 2A disruption, Devon. Only here because of the Meta thread. freshwest Jan 2013 #132

Thank you. DevonRex Jan 2013 #138

+1 n/t whathehell Jan 2013 #337

Nah shenmue Jan 2013 #22

Is that a quote from a Pakistani villager? Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #25

One day without innocents dying at our hands? aandegoons Jan 2013 #199

Epic Douchebaggery Fail jpak Jan 2013 #13

+1. Double thumbs down Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #27

+2 I dislike the word "douchbaggery" but hell, when it's apt, it's apt Number23 Jan 2013 #64

Please see my post in this thread regarding 168 Pakistani children killed by US drones. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #78

yup condoleeza Jan 2013 #130

Douchebaggery indeed! backscatter712 Jan 2013 #395

He shouldn't have danced. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #14

No, he should stop killing innocents abroad, MadHound Jan 2013 #23

He wasn't killing anybody. He was dancing. I saw him. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #24

It is by his order that those drones fly, MadHound Jan 2013 #30

Oh, that must have been what he was doing The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #34

There's an app for glib? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #92

Yes, of course. It's even better than Yelp. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #94

Perhaps you are an expert at it? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #102

Not at all, that's why it's so great that there's an app. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #104

Dang, you're good. BlueCaliDem Jan 2013 #110

Maybe he should stop the murder of children. aandegoons Jan 2013 #200

You're right, of course. RedCappedBandit Jan 2013 #17

The drone strikes would probably end if the terrorist gave themselves up but i dont see it happening Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #18

That is one of the more inane comparisons I've seen in a long time. MadHound Jan 2013 #26

And you are saying 26 people, American citizens, 20 6 to 7 years old is not something. Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #54

You are trying to falsely conflate two issues, gun violence and drone attacks, MadHound Jan 2013 #75

Terrorist is terrorist and it does not matter where this occurs. Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #285

If a "terrorist is a terrorist" . . . markpkessinger Jan 2013 #384

Can't reason with a troll, you just continue to argue with yourself, have fun Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #390

Excuse me, but I am no troll... markpkessinger Jan 2013 #391

I hate to inform you of this, but in the eyes of some around here you are a troll, MadHound Jan 2013 #392

So I've noticed n/t markpkessinger Jan 2013 #393

I have not denied Obama's policies so again you are wrong. I was pointing out American citizens are Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #399

MadHound, I couldn't agree with you more... choie Jan 2013 #111

If the terrorist gave themselves up. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #101

It can't happne because we make up who is a terrorist. aandegoons Jan 2013 #201

... SidDithers Jan 2013 #19

Is this a post about ProSense Jan 2013 #29

+1 Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #33

No, it's a post about innocents dying at the orders of the president, MadHound Jan 2013 #35

What is truly sad is your suggestions that President Obama ORDERED the murder of innocents. elleng Jan 2013 #43

He is the CinC, he does have his own personal kill list, he does give the orders, MadHound Jan 2013 #82

Yes, and his 'kill list' does not include innocents. elleng Jan 2013 #89

And the military is sloppy while the higher-ups ignore it. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #115

Well that is a direct and known consequence of the drone wars. Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #224

'Casualties' is not murder. elleng Jan 2013 #374

Yeah the those poor dead members of Al Qaeda. SpartanDem Jan 2013 #67

Please see my post in this thread regarding 168 dead Pakistani children due to US drones. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #74

when you start thread about death of innocents it shouldn't link to this story SpartanDem Jan 2013 #91

Your mother was a hamster, and your father smells of elderberries! Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #31

No, but when it is a president with an R behind his name, then you'll give a damn, MadHound Jan 2013 #38

Read post #39 and come back tomorrow. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #44

Ah, so when the questions get tough, you want me to just go away, MadHound Jan 2013 #49

Your question isn't tough. I simply am not in the mood. Didn't I already say that? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #97

I supported Bush killing terrorists too creeksneakers2 Jan 2013 #120

"Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time." The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #39

I kind of feel sorry for you. n/t countingbluecars Jan 2013 #41

I'd rather you felt sorry, or just gave a simple damn, for the innocents that have been killed MadHound Jan 2013 #45

Can't you take one day off countingbluecars Jan 2013 #50

The OP hates the President ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #55

Hates the president but easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #266

Apparently not Hekate Jan 2013 #136

It is good to reflect on this MLK anti-war speech in which he empathized with innocents Luminous Animal Jan 2013 #46

You're right. Bring the drones home and send in more troops. jillan Jan 2013 #47

How about we conduct a foreign policy that isn't based on killing first? MadHound Jan 2013 #53

There is one, but ProSense Jan 2013 #57

Actions speak louder than words MadHound Jan 2013 #85

Action ProSense Jan 2013 #90

Ok, how exactly do plan to have that go back in time and have us not return the Shah to power? jeff47 Jan 2013 #156

Huh? MadHound Jan 2013 #164

It's our original fuck-up in the middle east jeff47 Jan 2013 #269

He could be like the French ProSense Jan 2013 #66

unrec rollin74 Jan 2013 #48

Would you have prefered the alternative?? darkangel218 Jan 2013 #51

FWIW, MadHound advocated for letting Republicans win emulatorloo Jan 2013 #69

Not to mention the election eve.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #81

Thanks for remembering that, I blocked it out emulatorloo Jan 2013 #100

So that's it Hekate Jan 2013 #141

Sticks and drones may bomb my home think Jan 2013 #52

MadHound - OET called, they want their meme back. stevenleser Jan 2013 #56

I don't even think the Elmers are claiming this foolishness Number23 Jan 2013 #84

Help me. Please...??? littlemissmartypants Jan 2013 #157

Old Elm Tree - a website mainly of ex-DUers muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #214

Right.... Bobbie Jo Jan 2013 #321

Yeah they sound real innocent SpartanDem Jan 2013 #58

So tell your friends to stop supporting the NRA's BUSHMASTER markets abroad & putting guns in the patrice Jan 2013 #60

Ummmmmmm Jarhead1775 Jan 2013 #71

Politics makes strange bedfellows. S.2205 was actively promoted by Rand Paul, before he lost his patrice Jan 2013 #86

Yeah dude... Jarhead1775 Jan 2013 #98

What is your concept of how trouble starts and is sustained in the world's trouble spots? nt patrice Jan 2013 #112

() Jarhead1775 Jan 2013 #119

yeah, I tried to sketch that below, apparently it was too complex for someone. nt patrice Jan 2013 #150

#144 below patrice Jan 2013 #154

That was one of the most bizarre, twisted, weird posts I've seen out of you in a long time, MadHound Jan 2013 #95

So PO is just using drones for whatever, without input from the relevant government in the patrice Jan 2013 #108

Let's see here, MadHound Jan 2013 #123

But we really like the ex Yemen president think Jan 2013 #131

They say they oppose them because that's the politically expedient thing to say & the people know patrice Jan 2013 #148

Tell me why a bunch of dictators & kings in foreign countries are always honest & Evil Obama always patrice Jan 2013 #152

.... stklurker Jan 2013 #76

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #79

I had similar thoughts, but I thought my fellow DUers deserved a day to celebrate ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #83

You were similarly respectful and very kind DevonRex Jan 2013 #114

Thanks. ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #121

+1 Union Scribe Jan 2013 #116

Yeah, all of DU being upset today is not going to change anything. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #122

Well, I feel horrified.... Moonwalk Jan 2013 #87

+1000000 ellisonz Jan 2013 #96

Dance on, indeed! MirrorAshes Jan 2013 #109

Sure buddy, he deliberately targets only innocents. denbot Jan 2013 #93

I'd like very much to see your thoughts on assault weapons control, MadHound, especially in foreign patrice Jan 2013 #99

What does that have to do with drone strikes? MadHound Jan 2013 #107

If there were a group of people who had more or less valid justice issues and they were a minority patrice Jan 2013 #144

Nice lot of words there, a shame that they make hardly a lick of sense. MadHound Jan 2013 #147

I'm sorry your short term memory parsing is so limited. Perhaps you should do something about that. patrice Jan 2013 #149

It isn't my short term memory that is the problem, MadHound Jan 2013 #153

Quote whatever part confuses you & I will fix it. nt patrice Jan 2013 #159

The entirety of post 144 MadHound Jan 2013 #166

Nevermind. I'm tired. Forget it. Or do it yourself. nt patrice Jan 2013 #172

Your predeliction for insult is a dead give away for bias. Tell me why dictators always tell the patrice Jan 2013 #155

I'm not trying to insult you, MadHound Jan 2013 #162

MADHound, tell me why dictators always tell the truth & EVIL Obama always lies & likes murder. nt patrice Jan 2013 #163

paTRICE, tell me what that question has to do with the price of tea in China, MadHound Jan 2013 #171

You listed all of these governments who supposedly oppose the drone strikes & You ignored my comment patrice Jan 2013 #183

Umm, the UN isn't an evil dictatorship, MadHound Jan 2013 #185

Not according to your Libertarian & LiberTea anti-drone friends, to them, the UN is corrupt ... patrice Jan 2013 #188

Well, I guess you would know more about that than I would. MadHound Jan 2013 #207

AGAIN tell me why the dictators always tell all of the truth & Evil Obama always tells complete lies patrice Jan 2013 #193

AGAIN, you are the one making this claim, not I. MadHound Jan 2013 #208

I hear FDR was drinkin' when we firebombed Dresden... Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #105

And he was eating truffles and drinking champagne on the evening of his third inaugural Ikonoklast Jan 2013 #244

THAT MONSTER! Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #378

"Dead at the President's hand" MirrorAshes Jan 2013 #117

Who orders those drones into the air? Who orders the strikes to be made? MadHound Jan 2013 #126

No, they aren't. MirrorAshes Jan 2013 #129

Oh my stars and garters, I didn't use language that pleased you, my timing wasn't impeccable, MadHound Jan 2013 #134

What seems to have escaped you MirrorAshes Jan 2013 #145

Well, if that is how you define a troll, one who uses "shocking" language, MadHound Jan 2013 #151

Hah. MirrorAshes Jan 2013 #161

Umm, isn't that the very nature of these sort of chatboards? MadHound Jan 2013 #169

Indeed I do. MirrorAshes Jan 2013 #177

You know, you would have much more credence with me MadHound Jan 2013 #182

I'm not looking for anything from you. MirrorAshes Jan 2013 #186

It is true that people who are looking for actual solutions, not just an internet following, will patrice Jan 2013 #191

Exactly. n/t MirrorAshes Jan 2013 #196

LOL! MadHound Jan 2013 #205

If it walks like a troll, easttexaslefty Jan 2013 #279

What does killing children with a drone make someone? aandegoons Jan 2013 #203

I really don't like getting posts hidden treestar Jan 2013 #118

What? You are advocating freedom of speech?? panzerfaust Jan 2013 #411

Doubt he makes that claim treestar Jan 2013 #412

Rev. King would applaud you, MadHound DerekG Jan 2013 #125

Did MLK ProSense Jan 2013 #158

+1 redgreenandblue Jan 2013 #190

We prefer the safe sanitized version of King G_j Jan 2013 #289

Oh ffs. Give it a rest. n/t Lil Missy Jan 2013 #133

Optimists are rarely surprised by trouble. littlemissmartypants Jan 2013 #139

Thank you for your kind words, MadHound Jan 2013 #142

Unless your alternative includes a flux capacitor jeff47 Jan 2013 #160

Drone strikes are going to blowback on us badly, MadHound Jan 2013 #167

So you posted this shit OP because you're worried about "blowback"? ProSense Jan 2013 #173

Yes, I am MadHound Jan 2013 #178

By "enemies," do you mean "innocents"? ProSense Jan 2013 #180

So, is that what this is all about? You're scared of the "blowback"? Turborama Jan 2013 #265

Huh? MadHound Jan 2013 #271

You're scared they're coming to wreak revenge. Have you got lots of guns? Turborama Jan 2013 #286

And they're still the least-bad option jeff47 Jan 2013 #263

And drone strikes are continuing to drive thousands into the hands of al Qaeda, MadHound Jan 2013 #270

Again, it's the least-bad of bad options. jeff47 Jan 2013 #277

Yep. Definitely Stage 6 ODS. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #165

Well I suppose the dead children will thank you for your snark. aandegoons Jan 2013 #202

Thank you for your concern. Where were you when Bush was doing far worse?? kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #375

While the President dances...Vietnam ProSense Jan 2013 #168

Remind them that Obama did not START these unpaid for wars. I hope we can get out asap. judesedit Jan 2013 #170

While the GOP is happy to let millions starve to death at home & many are purchasing AK47's in hope judesedit Jan 2013 #174

Yeah...just like Obama didnt sign NDAA or renew the Patriot Act or continue policy of torture davidn3600 Jan 2013 #175

Before flinging poop ProSense Jan 2013 #179

I'm curious about what you think about the fact that that NDAA 2011, like most NDAAs, was veto-proof patrice Jan 2013 #187

You don't sign it, and take your case to the bully pulpit, MadHound Jan 2013 #206

I wonder how many people would have been killed had the President used more conventional..... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #192

Have you ever given much thought to how fewer al Qaeda operative would be in this world, MadHound Jan 2013 #209

Please tell me what you would use to achieve "a more surgical, precise method".... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #257

Really?!?!? xxxsdesdexxx Jan 2013 #195

Sometimes the truth hurts, MadHound Jan 2013 #211

You folks remind me why I hate politics LittleBlue Jan 2013 #197

And your post reminds me of hate. ProSense Jan 2013 #218

while innocents die in this country from our gun culture, YOU defend said culture over cali Jan 2013 #198

I'm not defending anybody's culture, MadHound Jan 2013 #212

The very best thing about Ralph Nader& Naderites&3rd partyites is-NEVER AGAIN will it happen graham4anything Jan 2013 #204

That is one of the most bizarre conflation of two distictly different topics I've seen in a while, MadHound Jan 2013 #213

no it's not...think about it.Without Bush, no 9-11, no patriot act(ratified by entire congress) graham4anything Jan 2013 #215

And what, exactly, does that have to do with drone strikes ordered by Obama? MadHound Jan 2013 #217

It's congress that authorized and ordered it.Without terrorists, no war on terror graham4anything Jan 2013 #220

Alrighty then, MadHound Jan 2013 #225

without President Obama, you would have 1000 times more deaths graham4anything Jan 2013 #238

you are becoming a parody of yourself arely staircase Jan 2013 #222

Why do you say that? MadHound Jan 2013 #227

it is like you are just going through the motions now arely staircase Jan 2013 #231

Sorry that you find my posting so repetitive, MadHound Jan 2013 #236

It has to get paid somehow ecstatic Jan 2013 #335

Damn I wish I could get paid for protesting imperial wars, drone strikes MadHound Jan 2013 #347

I'm against all wars, drone strikes, etc. too ecstatic Jan 2013 #350

Sorry, but around here, as in real life, there is no right time or place to discuss these things, MadHound Jan 2013 #352

You forgot to include these in you OP. JoePhilly Jan 2013 #232

Joe, Joe, we can always count on you for the insubstantial post. MadHound Jan 2013 #237

Seemed an appropriate response given the OP's content. But I will add ... JoePhilly Jan 2013 #239

I love you!! :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2013 #247

Awe ... JoePhilly Jan 2013 #255

Here, this ProSense Jan 2013 #258

I didn't think panties could twist that tight without shredding. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #259

cheap shot. DCBob Jan 2013 #268

Yes, drones are considered a cheap shot by a lot of people, MadHound Jan 2013 #272

Give it a rest for a day or two, won't you? MineralMan Jan 2013 #273

As soon as the president ends these condemend drone strikes, stops killing innocents, MadHound Jan 2013 #275

I'm going to ignore you now. Not through the Ignore MineralMan Jan 2013 #278

So you're saying a cessation of war, restoration of our civil liberties, MadHound Jan 2013 #325

Remember when ProSense Jan 2013 #291

Yup. And President Obama is bringing those wars to an end. MineralMan Jan 2013 #330

I know we don't agree with eachother much, but in this case, +1. n/t Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #402

Question for those who support unfettered use of drones to kill civilians: bighart Jan 2013 #274

Your post is strawman bullshit. ProSense Jan 2013 #276

Accidents happen. rug Jan 2013 #281

You're brilliant. n/t ProSense Jan 2013 #284

You're predictable. n/t rug Jan 2013 #287

Drone, it's the new ProSense Jan 2013 #290

Naturally, targetting civilians for death is anti-Obama. rug Jan 2013 #293

And making idiotic claims is so intelligent. n/t ProSense Jan 2013 #294

What idiotic claim? I'm all ears. rug Jan 2013 #295

The President is actually in his office right now drawning up a list of "innocents/kids" to kill. ProSense Jan 2013 #296

Uh, that's not an agument. It's not even good hyperbole. rug Jan 2013 #297

I forgot to add that everyone who voted for Obama has "blood on their hands" ProSense Jan 2013 #298

I see. You argue that people who oppose drone warfare must not vote for the Democratic candidate. rug Jan 2013 #299

No, ProSense Jan 2013 #300

I repeat, accidents happen. rug Jan 2013 #301

And I repeat: Drone, the new food of anti-Obama diners. n/t ProSense Jan 2013 #302

Sorry, this appears to be a circle that I will jerk myself out of. rug Jan 2013 #304

"I will jerk myself out" ProSense Jan 2013 #308

Perhaps if you would stop spewing it, the logic would be more apparent. rug Jan 2013 #309

Actually, ProSense Jan 2013 #312

Yes it is bullshit. After all, I was agreeing with you. rug Jan 2013 #314

Don't try to pass off your illogical claim onto me. n/t ProSense Jan 2013 #315

But it is. rug Jan 2013 #318

Where does it say ProSense Jan 2013 #320

Who do you think it's targetting? rug Jan 2013 #322

Clearly, ProSense Jan 2013 #324

Do you pay taxes? G_j Jan 2013 #303

Paying taxes means you support killing civilians? ProSense Jan 2013 #307

Of course we are talking a bout collateral damage G_j Jan 2013 #310

Maybe you ProSense Jan 2013 #311

As offensive as you find that statement G_j Jan 2013 #316

Wait, ProSense Jan 2013 #319

Well it really doesn't matter anyway does it? G_j Jan 2013 #323

Do what you think you should. No one is saying you need to suppress your convictions. randome Jan 2013 #328

For the record I did not state in my comment that civilians were being targeted, bighart Jan 2013 #353

We have to protect ourselves from the mighty Yemeni forces encircling us. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #283

... SidDithers Jan 2013 #288

What a wonderful way... 99Forever Jan 2013 #292

You're right, the President shouldn't dance at his inauguration. Arkana Jan 2013 #306

Nah, just stopping his misguided drone policy before it comes back to bite us would be enough. n/t MadHound Jan 2013 #326

K&R woo me with science Jan 2013 #313

truth.... mike_c Jan 2013 #327

So is Al-Qaeda. randome Jan 2013 #329

And we recruit more members for them with every drone strike. MadHound Jan 2013 #340

Like I said before, we are doing some good in the world. randome Jan 2013 #346

I'm not sure what you can't understand about not doing either, MadHound Jan 2013 #351

So tell Al-Quaida nicely to stop beheading, mutilating and crucifying people. randome Jan 2013 #356

Look, some of the most horrible violations against women occur in countries that are our allies, MadHound Jan 2013 #360

I don't see us using the military at home. randome Jan 2013 #361

That's the thing, the governments of these places are condemning our use of drones, MadHound Jan 2013 #362

Pakistan has a schizophrenic relationship with America. randome Jan 2013 #364

So I suppose that the UN and Somalia are schizophenic as well? MadHound Jan 2013 #367

Somalia is involved in a civil war so things are very messy there at the moment. randome Jan 2013 #370

Hey, the UN thinks that what we're doing with drones is wrong as well, MadHound Jan 2013 #373

I will point out the facts as I see them. I expect the same of you. randome Jan 2013 #383

Thousands die from gun violence in the US, yet you refuse to cooperate ecstatic Jan 2013 #331

You, and apparently many others, didn't get the point of that post, MadHound Jan 2013 #338

+1 tallahasseedem Jan 2013 #379

Two thumbs up to Velveteen Ocelot for tying up the OP in knots. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #332

? MadHound Jan 2013 #342

Having a bit of short memory lapse are we? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #344

We who, you've got a mouse in your pocket, or is that the royal "we" MadHound Jan 2013 #349

The Ocelot had the same reaction to your OP that I did. Ocelot's response was ridicule. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #366

Then you, and by extension VO, obviously haven't gotten my OP at all, MadHound Jan 2013 #368

No. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #369

It must be a terrible burden cliffordu Jan 2013 #339

Actually I find it quite easy to be critical of bad policy, MadHound Jan 2013 #343

Jeez, he's dancing. It's not like he was golfing or anything hughee99 Jan 2013 #341

Yeah, and hours before he went dancing, MadHound Jan 2013 #354

It's hard to disagree on that. hughee99 Jan 2013 #357

Some apes really like flinging excrement... MjolnirTime Jan 2013 #355

True that, but I prefer to be consistent. MadHound Jan 2013 #358

The tiniest consistency from self-avowed liberals would be refreshing indeed. nt raouldukelives Jan 2013 #372

Parties at your crib must be awesome! nt msanthrope Jan 2013 #371

k/r limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #381

Not uncommon for party loyalty to override people's core beliefs davidn3600 Jan 2013 #387

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Bugger off! Ian Iam Jan 2013 #394

I was right here, MadHound Jan 2013 #396

AFTER advising you to bugger off, I was selected for jury service Ian Iam Jan 2013 #397

Well, which do you want for that jury service, a medal, MadHound Jan 2013 #398

You are FULL of SHIT Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2013 #401

This "War On Terra" Started Long Before bu$h mumbled its effin' name. Amonester Jan 2013 #405

Speak for yourself, MadHound Jan 2013 #407