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farminator3000

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73. california has nothing to do with it, really

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:51 PM

Jan 2013

he didn't say where he was when he was 'talking to his friend'

in truth, he could have ridden from the inauguration in Obama's limo to a wal mart in VA and the President could have stood there and watched him buy a hunting rifle.

really. that would be the easiest way. and a good example of how mixed up gun laws are.

or, he could meet somebody from craigslist in a parking lot in any state, which is the real problem.

you are being disingenuous by saying 'if everybody obeyed the law, there wouldn't be a problem'

as if that has happened yet in the history of humanity...

if he didn't want to wait 10 days in CA, he could zip over to Vegas, not a long drive.

you don't seem too understand Stevie's point, it seems.

he is saying 'i could go buy a gun anytime i want. easily.'

which is odd. are you really saying you are ok with blind people carrying guns around? in public?

in the paralympics they aim at sounds...not really the best self-defense technique...

i myself am legally blind w/o glasses, and trying to shoot w/o them them would be berzerk.

i couldn't drive faster than 5 mph w/o, so shooting- definitely a no-go.

everything past 6 inches is a blur- no possible way to aim unless i put my nose on a pistol grip- get it?

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Stevie Wonder says he will go buy a gun to show the ridiculousness of the laws!! [View all] okaawhatever Jan 2013 OP

I had to rec this just for Stevie's music. He made my early years just a bit more bearable. Systematic Chaos Jan 2013 #1

Please let there be video of Stevie making his purchase! muntrv Jan 2013 #2

It would be a long video - At least 20 minutes for actually buying the gun plus another segment... slackmaster Jan 2013 #15

Not at a gun show. nt awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #18

No, because he lives in California it would be exactly the same at a gun show. slackmaster Jan 2013 #20

How about next door in Nevada?... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #24

A California resident cannot legally buy a gun in any other state... slackmaster Jan 2013 #26

I didn't know that... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #27

I think the laws in California are stricter than they need to be. Some of them seem to be there... slackmaster Jan 2013 #30

I think we all can agree, though... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #32

Yes, in fact I do agree on background checks on all sales. The present system doesn't allow it. slackmaster Jan 2013 #33

Make it a requirement for gun dealers... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #42

It is already the law for gun dealers to run checks, whether it's at a gun show or elsewhere Kennah Jan 2013 #111

What I mean is that... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #131

I'm good with that Kennah Jan 2013 #142

That is probably a better idea... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #143

This message was self-deleted by its author williamc1967txlib Jan 2013 #55

nobody has to even show an ID in AZ, so...a cali resident can go next door or to craigslist farminator3000 Jan 2013 #61

Why would he go all the way to Idaho or Arizona to make an illegal purchase, when he could easily... slackmaster Jan 2013 #62

you should have said 'a cali resident can buy a gun in MANY other states' farminator3000 Jan 2013 #63

Because the point is what can and cannot be done LEGALLY, which is the real topic of this thread. slackmaster Jan 2013 #64

yes, the point is what can be done legally is bad enough to allow 40% of sales illegally farminator3000 Jan 2013 #65

The context of the discussion is what can be done legally in California by a California resident. slackmaster Jan 2013 #66

the point is it would only be slightly harder for him in CA than VA farminator3000 Jan 2013 #67

Buying a firearm in California is more than twice as much hassle as it is in Virginia. slackmaster Jan 2013 #81

twice as much as zero is still zero farminator3000 Jan 2013 #118

You are very persistent in conflating legal transactions with unlawful ones slackmaster Jan 2013 #121

you're good at ignoring everything i post farminator3000 Jan 2013 #122

That last sets my teeth on edge. Benton D Struckcheon Jan 2013 #134

I think anyone who thinks the police must necessarily be better armed than the general public... slackmaster Jan 2013 #136

No, it's just common sense. Benton D Struckcheon Jan 2013 #140

Wonder what the response would be if he shows up at a shooting range? LeftInTX Jan 2013 #3

Hehe. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #25

Someone would probably help him. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #68

Target shooting for blind people is a Paralympic event hack89 Jan 2013 #4

Well dang, now it's not nearly as funny, but I think it's awesome theres a okaawhatever Jan 2013 #5

Blind people play many sports that might surprise you. I knew a blind guy who slaughtered on the Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #56

And believe it or not, some states allow the blind to hunt. n/t RebelOne Jan 2013 #80

if you read stats on how most people use guns in the home, he can't be any worse. yurbud Jan 2013 #6

Reminds me of this Ray Charles joke: yurbud Jan 2013 #7

Ray can shoot! aikoaiko Jan 2013 #10

wow--I can't believe I set that up for you. yurbud Jan 2013 #11

And for those who don't know... the devil Jan 2013 #49

It is hard not to love. yurbud Jan 2013 #54

This scene was the first thing that I though of when I saw the post. EOM BigAnth Jan 2013 #115

Kay and Are! MrMickeysMom Jan 2013 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author slackmaster Jan 2013 #9

As long as he's not a member of a prohibited class of people, he has every right to buy one slackmaster Jan 2013 #12

Or he could just go to Arizona and buy one of the street from anyone. He can buy a Barrett 50 cal okaawhatever Jan 2013 #19

He could not do that legally slackmaster Jan 2013 #21

california has nothing to do with it, really farminator3000 Jan 2013 #73

There are blind people who target shoot obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #75

yes, but they don't usually walk into wal marts and buy guns farminator3000 Jan 2013 #78

But they legally can obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #137

they only can since the year 2000 (bottom link) farminator3000 Jan 2013 #139

Nonsense. slackmaster Jan 2013 #79

you are inventing a subject that has nothing to do with the OP farminator3000 Jan 2013 #86

You're jumping all over the place here. In your last post in this sub-thread you wrote about buying slackmaster Jan 2013 #87

you are the one stuck in CA, which has no bearing whatsover farminator3000 Jan 2013 #94

Not at a Wal Mart, and not legally slackmaster Jan 2013 #95

and again, look at the chart farminator3000 Jan 2013 #100

People break laws, so your solution is more laws? slackmaster Jan 2013 #103

worked for drunk driving and smoking, didn't it? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #107

He may have SAID he can buy a gun easily, but he hasn't DEMONSTRATED that he can do so. slackmaster Jan 2013 #110

no, i demonsrated how easy it is for him to buy one, and you refuse to admit it farminator3000 Jan 2013 #112

You showed how a person might acquire a firearm ILLEGALLY. slackmaster Jan 2013 #113

and 40% of guns are bought illegally. in reality. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #116

Hey slackmaster. DevonRex Jan 2013 #88

A real gun safe is far superior to any kind of movable trigger lock slackmaster Jan 2013 #89

Thanks. DevonRex Jan 2013 #93

Trigger locks actually suck obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #138

He can probably get a concealed-carry permit, too krispos42 Jan 2013 #13

I doubt that he could pass the California shooting test with his vision slackmaster Jan 2013 #14

I think I would be legally blind without my glasses or contacts krispos42 Jan 2013 #36

I am legally blind in one eye with or without correction. The other corrects to 20/20. slackmaster Jan 2013 #38

I'm 36, and I've had bad eyes since middle school krispos42 Jan 2013 #45

He could get them online, too. freshwest Jan 2013 #16

Yes, but that doesn't relieve him of any of the obstacles I describe in reply #12 slackmaster Jan 2013 #17

It sounds like a good first step then is for all states to adopt CA laws. pnwmom Jan 2013 #39

Slim to none in most states. Ditto on getting CA-style laws passed in Congress. slackmaster Jan 2013 #43

Zero in Washington. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #70

No different than if he went to a local gun store. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #69

it is completely different farminator3000 Jan 2013 #74

Internet sellers will not ship a firearm to a non-licensee in another state slackmaster Jan 2013 #82

see #90 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #91

There's nothing wrong with the law, then. slackmaster Jan 2013 #92

'enforcement problem' is stock NRA doo-doo farminator3000 Jan 2013 #96

Please don't falsely attribute words to me slackmaster Jan 2013 #98

well what does this mean, then farminator3000 Jan 2013 #104

thank you Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #102

Pardon me for knowing how internet firearms transfers work. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #85

that sounds like how you WISH they'd work. or you're just wrong farminator3000 Jan 2013 #90

What are you even talking about? AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #101

your completely false statement that buying a gun on the internet is the same as at a store farminator3000 Jan 2013 #117

Uh, you didn't post one goddamn thing that is contrary to my statement. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #120

yes, i did, you didn't look hard enough. or at all? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #123

Have you looked in your local newspaper? It's called the Classified Ads. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #124

great. so the BATF should start buying every gun in every ad in the country and melting them farminator3000 Jan 2013 #128

That's illegal. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #130

someone should arrest these cops then-Police destroy guns bought in buyback program farminator3000 Jan 2013 #132

If they broke the law, well, sucks for them. They should be prosecuted. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #133

why would a bunch of cops announce in the newspaper they were breaking a law??? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #135

I have the same issue with Gun Buybacks by the police in general. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #144

they have potential farminator3000 Jan 2013 #145

That Arizona buyback is highly unusual. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #146

getting less unusual, i hope... farminator3000 Jan 2013 #147

Precisely the point. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #22

I need a link! Hot shit! nt babylonsister Jan 2013 #23

LOL Anyone remember this? proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #28

So now people with physical disabilities can't own guns? I don't think he sees the real issue, here. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #29

He collects cars. Oprah Winfrey gave him a Rolls Royce in about 2004. slackmaster Jan 2013 #31

So then there's no problem with him collecting guns. Someone else can shoot them. nt OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #41

I agree completely. slackmaster Jan 2013 #44

I agree Jarhead1775 Jan 2013 #48

Or someone can assist him. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #71

Buy it, sure, use it is a different story snooper2 Jan 2013 #59

no, you are trying to deflect from the issue he is raising farminator3000 Jan 2013 #77

A California resident cannot buy a gun any time they want, almost anywhere, LEGALLY. slackmaster Jan 2013 #83

again, see#116 farminator3000 Jan 2013 #119

I obviously understand reply #113 a whole lot better than you do slackmaster Jan 2013 #125

#116. whatever. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #129

Anybody can get heroin too. Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #127

No, not always actually. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #126

Wow I love him! stuntcat Jan 2013 #34

It's that vision thing people have, it happens in one's own mind nolabels Jan 2013 #35

I love that guy! another_liberal Jan 2013 #37

It will be very educational for a lot of people, if he documents his experience honestly. slackmaster Jan 2013 #40

Yes, it will. another_liberal Jan 2013 #47

Once upon a time, he was "Little Stevie Wonder" Samantha Jan 2013 #46

Lol! grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #50

Is he saying that he shouldn't own a gun? xoom Jan 2013 #51

I'm assuming that is his position. nt okaawhatever Jan 2013 #52

I believe he's going to find that the laws are indeed ridiculous, but not for the reasons he thinks. slackmaster Jan 2013 #58

I'm impressed by the number of people yucking it up on the confirmation bias in this thread AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #72

The time Little Stevie Wonder spent with Don Rickles is paying off Brother Buzz Jan 2013 #53

Stevie was the first person who organized me into something political who was outside my family. Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #57

Here's the interview with Piers Morgan. slackmaster Jan 2013 #60

Right after he gets his new car. DeSwiss Jan 2013 #76

Guns For The Sight-Impaired Is A Perennial Gun Militant Cause. Paladin Jan 2013 #84

Einstein was right. valerief Jan 2013 #106

Woo hoo, love you, Stevie! Great idea. nt valerief Jan 2013 #97

He won't go through with it. slackmaster Jan 2013 #99

Sounds like Ray Charles when he crashed his Corvette duffyduff Jan 2013 #105

Is there a blind celebrity in a red state? ecstatic Jan 2013 #108

He'll just have to get a laser site.... Historic NY Jan 2013 #109

In Kansas, the Republican controlled legislature deliberately removed the tblue37 Jan 2013 #114

He should do target practice with Ted Nugent Generic Brad Jan 2013 #141