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louis c

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Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:26 PM Jan 2013

My Mother is Very Religious, and I Am Not [View all]

I've been following some threads here at DU that I find troublesome. Criticizing President Obama for invoking God in his Inaugural Address, and the singing of the Battle Hymn of the Republic.

I am not a religious person. I don't attend church and I doubt the existence of God. I think the Catholic Church should mind it's own business on social issues and I think the Christian Coalition is made up of people who are intolerant.

However, my beliefs belong to me and anyone who has a different set of beliefs than I do should be respected. I do not think more of someone who holds strong religious beliefs, and that includes all religions, but I do not think less of them, either.

Today, I was pre-planning my Mom's funeral arrangements. She's not sick and I expect to have her with me for a long time, but I did so as a matter of having the arrangements planned during a time that is less stressful and to pay for the services at a time that I know I can afford. As a result, the plan was that she have the service she wants. She will be buried with my late Father, she will have a Catholic Church Mass in the same Church in which she was baptized, received her First Communion, was Confirmed and Married. I discussed this with her in a matter of fact way, but I will not tell her the arrangements are already made. That may upset her.

Since I respect the wishes of my Mother, why would I deny that to any other person. The First Amendment doesn't outlaw religion, it prevents the Government Establishment of one. I have great joy and pride (and even more-so since 2008) in joining in singing God Bless America. I understand the historical nature of Religion in our culture and I try not to offend others with my own belief.

The President swears an oath of Allegiance on the Holy Bible, In God We Trust is on our money. These things will never change and these facts have little impact on our lives, religious or not. They are traditions embedded in our culture. It's not dogma, but an accepted practice. There are major battles ahead involving helping the poor and the middle class. Preserving the Social Services created by FDR and Lyndon Johnson. Those are the real fights and are actually part of the belief system of those we are trying to convince.

When we make an issue out of someone's deep seeded and long-held beliefs, we hurt our cause. We're trying to convince people to agree with us on major issues, and that means not looking to pick a fight where none exists.

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A thoughtful post Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #1
I know it's origin louis c Jan 2013 #2
It first appeared on coinage in the 1840s. On paper money in the 1950s. onenote Jan 2013 #17
Well Stated ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #3
It suddenly became an issue yesterday because a memo went out to the troops. JMHO. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #6
I didn't get a memo OriginalGeek Jan 2013 #27
Bear in mind that it can be very alienating to be an atheist in America Fumesucker Jan 2013 #11
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #12
You can't pass and I can Fumesucker Jan 2013 #15
I'm liking this exploration ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #23
Research shows that using self control in one part of your life lessens self control in other parts. Fumesucker Jan 2013 #24
I'm not understanding much of what you have written ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #25
Bear in mind I'm an older white guy living in the deep South Fumesucker Jan 2013 #29
To each his own . . . fadedrose Jan 2013 #4
I am of the firm belief that no small percentage of the fanatical religion haters here on DU are kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #5
I agree louis c Jan 2013 #9
Their attacks and RW talking points are clearly coordinated. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #10
I have noticed over the years that there are some people who never post Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2013 #16
This is also true of the Gungeon. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #20
Hmmmm OriginalGeek Jan 2013 #28
+1 truebluegreen Jan 2013 #30
+2. The accusation that anyone questioning the religiosity of the inaugurals as RW trolls riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #36
In God we trust on our coinage was imposed by religionists at the end of the Civil war. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #7
It was made the official motto in 1956 louis c Jan 2013 #8
If only all beliefs were respected like that Generic Brad Jan 2013 #13
The religious trappings didn't bother me, BUT.... brooklynite Jan 2013 #14
if the issue was simply whether the inaugural events represented everyone onenote Jan 2013 #19
+100 truebluegreen Jan 2013 #31
"Tradition"'s the last bastion of bigotry. Look hard at those who aren't open to dialogue and change riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #18
Agreed. JNelson6563 Jan 2013 #21
+1 n/t Silent3 Jan 2013 #35
Religion and believers become a problem for me Are_grits_groceries Jan 2013 #22
I viewed the Inauguration as tradition, so I let the religious part RKP5637 Jan 2013 #26
"I have no problem with religion as long as it's not forced on me." truebluegreen Jan 2013 #32
Yes, good points! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #33
I wouldn't have a problem with other people's deep seated religious beliefs... cynatnite Jan 2013 #34
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