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Starboard Tack

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65. Fact is, as Bake says, most carriers are not gun nuts.

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 04:57 PM

Jan 2013

They are relatively normal individuals who, for one reason or another, feel unsafe around their fellow citizens. They are scared for their own personal safety. They are not vigilantes, like Zimmerman, in the main.
I don't get it, personally, because it is a sign of a failed society and every person who carries contributes to said failure. Quite a tragic state of affairs, when you think about it. A distorted view of a Constitutional right that leads directly to the failure of the society it purportedly protects. Such irony!

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A hypothetical question for someone that packs a gun (concealed carry) [View all] Bandit Jan 2013 OP

shoot first and ask questions later... JoeBlowToo Jan 2013 #1

Actually two dumb fuck right winger eliminated. RC Jan 2013 #3

It depends on what you mean by "carrying". ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #2

A concealed carrier pipoman Jan 2013 #4

What about 'stand your ground' laws? flamin lib Jan 2013 #6

Your question suggests you need to do some research. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #10

Stand your ground pipoman Jan 2013 #13

Zimmerman comes to mind. Hoyt Jan 2013 #26

Thank you, ALEC nt truebluegreen Jan 2013 #42

Victims - like Trayvon Martin??? kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #52

Just because you CAN stand your ground doesn't mean you SHOULD do so. Bake Jan 2013 #15

I think in this case... krispos42 Jan 2013 #24

You guys got it all figured out, except you really don't. Hoyt Jan 2013 #27

awww krispos42 Jan 2013 #55

A comment I will never forget in the aftermath of the Gabby Gifford's Tucson shooting... libdem4life Jan 2013 #5

He rightly decided not to draw the weapon Bake Jan 2013 #16

I don't think that at all, especially of people here. Just trying to understand. When I have to libdem4life Jan 2013 #25

I didn't mean to imply you personally. Bake Jan 2013 #29

Indeed...it's like the conversation we never wanted to have...but here it is. libdem4life Jan 2013 #30

Joe Zamudio. Ruby the Liberal Jan 2013 #28

Fact is, as Bake says, most carriers are not gun nuts. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #65

Reminds me of an event in the 70s in Barcelona, Spain. We were tourists, just arrived and checked libdem4life Jan 2013 #67

you EarthWindFire Jan 2013 #7

FFS regjoe Jan 2013 #8

Well, what you forget Zoeisright Jan 2013 #9

Thank you to the gun owners who responded. gateley Jan 2013 #11

Most gun owners are of the same mind, Lurks Often Jan 2013 #21

That's my belief, too, which is why I don't like the "off with their heads" all or nothing gateley Jan 2013 #23

An even better hypothetical question for the Delicate Flowers bongbong Jan 2013 #12

Nice insult. Crap like that is why gun owners don't pay attention to you Bake Jan 2013 #17

Statistics! bongbong Jan 2013 #19

I don't have to study any statistics to know bullshit when I see it. Bake Jan 2013 #22

Leave. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #32

Seems the Delicate Flowers can't stand to have their absurd positions scrutinized. baldguy Jan 2013 #36

If that particular poster was offering any "Scrutiny", it would be met kindly. Decoy of Fenris Jan 2013 #39

Delicate flower being delicate. baldguy Jan 2013 #40

Not at all. Just pointing out how and why you were wrong. n/t Decoy of Fenris Jan 2013 #43

Great example of how broken the jury system is. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #61

You poor thing. baldguy Jan 2013 #63

Your malls must be smaller than normal. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #44

It would depend entirely on the situation. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #14

Excellent answer. Bake Jan 2013 #18

Insane. wtmusic Jan 2013 #57

*shrug* I was just answering the OP's hypothetical. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #59

As usual, a thoughtful response from you. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #68

Thanks...and those are very good suggestions. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #69

You fail to consider the regional differences Lurks Often Jan 2013 #20

pay more attention to him. Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #31

I do not own a weapon, but I can tell you one thing, Ruby the Liberal Jan 2013 #33

Do not normally carry but do have CCW Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #34

Yep - why I said "with a weapon displayed" Ruby the Liberal Jan 2013 #37

well deep in red OK Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #38

This is raidert05 Jan 2013 #45

From what you have seen Ruby the Liberal Jan 2013 #49

You are welcome to try your luck. Ruby the Liberal Jan 2013 #48

Not all the Northeast, evidently. Decoy of Fenris Jan 2013 #50

I don't CC, but I'll answer anyways. Decoy of Fenris Jan 2013 #35

Certain things have to meet up raidert05 Jan 2013 #41

I regularly carry when back in the States - I'll answer... OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #46

yes!! raidert05 Jan 2013 #47

where I live people can get a conceal and carry permit just by applying erinlough Jan 2013 #51

I think we all know the decision depends solely on what color the guy kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #53

I'd pull the Fire Alarm rightsideout Jan 2013 #54

Hypothetically... sarisataka Jan 2013 #56

By the time you thought twice about him you'd be dead. nt wtmusic Jan 2013 #58

If the person is coming in sarisataka Jan 2013 #60

You have a much better chance if he doesn't have the gun to start with. wtmusic Jan 2013 #64

That would make the point moot sarisataka Jan 2013 #66

Making it illegal would make it much rarer. wtmusic Jan 2013 #70

Would not Berserker Jan 2013 #62