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In reply to the discussion: Guns should not be kept in houses where children are present [View all]farminator3000
(2,117 posts)there are 4 million NRA members, maybe 100 million gun owners. ( i am one, by the way)
that makes 200 million non gun owners.
Some 58 percent favor strengthening gun laws in the United States. Just 5 percent felt such laws should be loosened, while 35 percent said they should be left unchanged.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/gun-control-poll_n_2486116.html
so that's ~ a 2:1 ratio pro gun regulation.
do you realize the new proposals are about stopping the 30-40% of gun sales that are illegal? and not taking away anything?
even the feinstein thing, there are 900 guns allowed and 120 military-style banned. that sounds pretty fair.
your whole 'position' IS absolutist- if you are defending the NRA, that is really the offensive thing here.
if you are defending yourself, you are misinformed (probably by the NRA)
thousands of laws? do you realize the NRA helped pass the NFA and GCA? when they were good people?
and this chart shows a lot less than 1000 laws. i count 14 states with ZERO gun laws.
http://swampland.time.com/2013/01/17/states-take-action/
you have more guns than cars or people, on what planet is that NOTHING you so dramatically capitalized?
you are the one avoiding facts. you KNOW sensible guns laws are bad bad bad? that isn't an extreme statement?
who is asking you to give up anything? that is a dishonest statement right there.
plus, you seem to completely ignore the Supreme Court: (Heller)
"Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. From Blackstone through the 19th-century cases, commentators and courts routinely explained that the right was not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose. See, e.g., Sheldon, in 5 Blume 346; Rawle 123; Pomeroy 152153; Abbott333. For example, the majority of the 19th-century courts to consider the question held that prohibitions on carrying concealed weapons were lawful under the Second Amendment or state analogues. See, e.g., State v. Chandler, 5 La. Ann., at 489490; Nunn v. State, 1 Ga., at 251; see generally 2 Kent *340, n. 2; The American Students Blackstone 84, n. 11 (G. Chase ed. 1884). Although we do not undertake an exhaustive historical analysis today of the full scope of the Second Amendment , nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.26"