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Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
53. To me, this is the deal with presidents who
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 03:03 PM
Jan 2012

"break" promises or things they campaigned on:

If you want to make changes that you truly beleive in, you have to hold onto power. But if you have another party against you that's postulating the opposite solutions, with a whole bunch of voters backing them up, you have to appear to compromise to defeat your opponent. You have to constantly pivot back and forth between your true professed beliefs and the beliefs that will take some of your opponents votes away from them. Admittedly, it's a game but it's a necessary and important game that your own constituents don't always realize you are playing. And so they end up getting angry at you because they don't realize you're just trying to keep power in the hands of democrats to slowly institute the changes most democrats beleive in. So very often it may appear Obama is selling but that is only because he have a conservative movement and their voters to deal with. You don't go all in on everything you want all at once and risk angering a huge swath of voters or perhaps failing at at change monumentally. You take it slow.

Think of it this way: what would happen if we kept voting democrat no matter what? If you dry out the republican power well, you eliminate your opponent. If you eliminate your opponent, you don't have to contend with them or their voters. You can finally institute the changes you really beleive in without political repercussions.

3....2....1.... Scuba Jan 2012 #1
If he were white,... MarianJack Jan 2012 #2
+1. n/t arthritisR_US Jan 2012 #7
Thanx! MarianJack Jan 2012 #46
Yep! I don't think she would have done that to Bill Clinton. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #8
They hate having a black president. MarianJack Jan 2012 #45
She wanted to show out in front of her crazy, racist Teabag Robots! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #47
Right! MarianJack Jan 2012 #52
I agree with you. Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #22
george w moron... MarianJack Jan 2012 #43
Jackie Robinson popped into my mind when it happened. Pirate Smile Jan 2012 #30
The entire rethug strategy since 1/20/09... MarianJack Jan 2012 #44
+1000 graywarrior Jan 2012 #51
Thankx! MarianJack Jan 2012 #54
VP speculum. ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2012 #55
I strongly suspect you're right ... surrealAmerican Jan 2012 #56
Exactly right. n/t Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #59
Sometimes I wish Obama were a little more LBJ lumberjack_jeff Jan 2012 #3
You mean like *this*... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #12
You mean abrasive, workaholic, and stubborn to the point of insanity? Arkana Jan 2012 #15
LOL Shankapotomus Jan 2012 #18
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To me, this is the deal with presidents who Shankapotomus Jan 2012 #53
Please don't use that word to refer to any woman. MineralMan Jan 2012 #4
I have a couple in mind, but I don't think you'd like them either. backscatter712 Jan 2012 #14
I prefer "Gutless Shitsucking Cretin" cliffordu Jan 2012 #16
Do what they do in the White House with the word "recession": call her a "bagel". Arkana Jan 2012 #17
get ready for being a "fine example" of the "liberal equivalent" ... zbdent Jan 2012 #5
Your description is much too kind! n/t Segami Jan 2012 #6
You left out stupid. PassingFair Jan 2012 #9
stupid would not even needed *****. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #11
Oh My! MarianJack Jan 2012 #13
imagine a love child between Jan and Rick Perry? waddirum Jan 2012 #63
the b**** and the n*****? progressive post? seabeyond Jan 2012 #10
I alerted on the post, too, and saw your result. MineralMan Jan 2012 #19
Some juries are more laid back than others I guess. TBF Jan 2012 #25
Do you mean "more sexist"? obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #28
I was going for a more neutral word, but yes. nt TBF Jan 2012 #31
it just makes du look so stupid. think of the boards that have crap like this in subject seabeyond Jan 2012 #29
i waited before speaking out until jury came back. jury came back saying bitch is ok. seabeyond Jan 2012 #27
I know. I'm at a loss on this stuff as to what to do. MineralMan Jan 2012 #33
i am aware of the TOS situation now. i wasnt at the beginning with a newbie seabeyond Jan 2012 #42
Sadly, Pelosi was frequently called that, on DU, between 2007 and 2009 or so muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #64
i alerted on du2 and they were deleted. maybe these are the ones no one saw to alert seabeyond Jan 2012 #65
"Astricks?" vulture socialist Jan 2012 #26
I find your use of the term offensive to female dogs everywhere! hedgehog Jan 2012 #21
Jan Brewer is a Broth? n/t Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #23
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #24
No. It doesn't. But your post is MineralMan Jan 2012 #36
I just overheard several coworkers discussing how awesome this was. Initech Jan 2012 #32
It's a very troubling picture - TBF Jan 2012 #34
I saw something yesterday that SS activity has risen 400% since 2008. Initech Jan 2012 #41
How would you feel if someone used that word to describe MineralMan Jan 2012 #35
She was auditioning for the veep slot on the GOPer ticket Bozita Jan 2012 #37
Other words you could use instead. Hatchling Jan 2012 #38
thank you. nt TBF Jan 2012 #39
Unrec for using B word about a woman. emilyg Jan 2012 #40
One other scenario occurs to me. lpbk2713 Jan 2012 #48
I also do not appreciate the word you chose to describe Brewer. demmiblue Jan 2012 #49
Whether or not she's a B****, her face looks like a melted candle. Erose999 Jan 2012 #50
Please don't insult bacon....she's a hag HipChick Jan 2012 #57
But bacon looks good. aquart Jan 2012 #66
Enjoy your pizza. nt msanthrope Jan 2012 #58
More idiotic racism Mosaic Jan 2012 #60
so really demonspawn, this was just a drive by to start shit as flamebait, right? nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #61
Yup. The OP has left the building, under escort. MineralMan Jan 2012 #62
another one bites the dust? zappaman Jan 2012 #67
Since someone dropped the B-bomb... backscatter712 Jan 2012 #68
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