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In reply to the discussion: Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy believed President Kennedy was killed by a conspiracy. [View all]stopbush
(24,395 posts)followed by his own counter rebuttal of Myers.
Unfortunately for Speers, he comes off the big loser in this exchange. He obviously doesn't know a thing about the way the computer programs used by Myers operate, and he makes a bunch of what Myers correctly (in my opinion) describes as "amateur errors."
Speers may be a critic of Myers, but he's no expert in anything.
BTW - the final laugh riot to Speers' idiocies is his concluding section called "Door to Door," wherein he admits that he was taken by surprise in 2012 "when conspiracy theorist Anthony Marsh tried to convince me Kelley and Myers etc were not lying when they said the jump seat was 6 inches inboard of the door, but were simply incorrectly representing the reality that the door by the jump seat intrudes into the passenger compartment alongside the jump seat, and that, as a result, the right side of Connally's seat was 6 inches to the left of the right side of Kennedy's seat.
"Well, this caught me by surprise. This wasn't how Myers had defended himself when this was all fresh in my mind. Myers had as much as acknowledged (translation: he hasn't acknowledged as much, but that doesn't help my argument) that Connally's seat was but 2 1/2 inches to the left of Kennedy's, but had insisted that Connally had slid to the left in his chair, so that he was sitting 6 inches to the left of Kennedy at the time of the shooting.
"While I briefly considered going back and changing all the slides in which I presented Connally's seat as being 2.5 inches to the left of Kennedy's seat to reflect this more accurate assessment, I soon decided against it. While I now believe Kennedy's seat extended 3.75 inches to the right of Connally's seat, I have never been convinced Kennedy availed himself of every last inch of this space. In fact, it's counter-intuitive to assume such a thing. I don't know anyone who sits in a car, of any type, with their butt slid all the way up against the side of the car. And I bet you don't either." (http://www.patspeer.com/chapter12c:animania)
So to recap, this guy starts out thinking that Connally's seat isn't inboard at all from the side of the car. He takes Myers to task for saying the seat was 2.5 inches from the door, but that Connally had slid over in the seat to where he was maybe 6 inches from the door. He then hears from a fellow CTist who says that Connally's seat was actually SIX INCHES over, NOT the 2.5 he took Myers to task for (!), and then comes to the final conclusion that the seat was actually 3.75 inches over - a full inch and a quarter FURTHER over than what Myers proposes (!??), BUT, saying that, "I have never been convinced Kennedy availed himself of every last inch of this space," while STILL taking Myers to task for imagining that Connally may not have "availed himself of every last inch" of the seat he was on by sliding over to his left a bit more.
Sheer lunacy.
The best part is that Speers doesn't even realize how he destroys his own arguments.
But thanks for the link. This thread needed a comedy break.