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Tommy_Carcetti

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64. Favorite politician-president: Clinton. Favorite president-president: Carter.

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:48 PM

Jan 2013

Clinton is just a fascinating person, period. He's certainly not without his flaws and faults and things with which I disagreed with him. But damn it, the man is brilliant, an incredible speaker and a tremendous life story. The man is walking, breathing charisma. He's truly the first rock star president.

On the other end of the spectrum, I've always been impressed at Jimmy Carter's humbleness and blunt honesty. He's truly the most moral and honest person to ever hold the office of President. And he got a bum rap as President, too. I truly believe our country took a turn for the worse in 1980 when they allowed themselves to be glamoured by a empty movie star instead of a good and decent man.

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Favorite President [View all] Dpm12 Jan 2013 OP

Lincoln Cary Jan 2013 #1

Yeah Dpm12 Jan 2013 #2

I didn't say I disliked him, mind you. Cary Jan 2013 #9

I'm Sorry Dpm12 Jan 2013 #13

Not on this post and clearly I was wrong on the other one, as noted below. Cary Jan 2013 #50

And yet, when Lincoln was president, there was a 4-year civil war Art_from_Ark Jan 2013 #111

Obama madokie Jan 2013 #3

Re-election Dpm12 Jan 2013 #4

Yes it did madokie Jan 2013 #8

What an odd comment. Cary Jan 2013 #11

No Dpm12 Jan 2013 #16

Perhaps I misread sarcasm or facetiousness in your post. Cary Jan 2013 #23

FDR. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #5

FDR srican69 Jan 2013 #6

Franklin D. Roosevelt Glorfindel Jan 2013 #7

LBJ too srican69 Jan 2013 #10

I just mentioned today louis c Jan 2013 #37

James Madison has always been a real favorite of mine. closeupready Jan 2013 #12

William Henry Harrison Doc_Technical Jan 2013 #14

all 32 days? sad-cafe Jan 2013 #21

Bwah..beat me to him. Historic NY Jan 2013 #101

Rutherford B. Hayes snooper2 Jan 2013 #15

Certainly had the best beard. (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #55

In my lifetime - Obama union_maid Jan 2013 #17

FDR jwirr Jan 2013 #18

John Quincy Adams Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #19

Old Tippecanoe, Harrison...a presidency very short on vacation time HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #20

And let's not forget of course... Dpm12 Jan 2013 #22

Bush served President Gore's first term. Nika Jan 2013 #27

JFK Boomerproud Jan 2013 #24

Yeah Dpm12 Jan 2013 #25

Ditto. n/t RebelOne Jan 2013 #76

Thomas Jefferson Nika Jan 2013 #26

you mean Jefferson's all men are created equal forgetting women and slaves philosophy? graham4anything Jan 2013 #34

We all have trappings of our times to deal with. Nika Jan 2013 #36

Jefferson abusing his female slaves was no conspiracy theory. graham4anything Jan 2013 #39

No, I do not mean mean Henry Wallace. Nika Jan 2013 #42

Taking a second to admire the poster with the LBJ avatar piecing out Jefferson's shortcomings. Bucky Jan 2013 #38

LBJ was one of the most disgustingly bad presidents in our history. Nika Jan 2013 #43

tell that to a black person dsc Jan 2013 #45

I think you gotta respect someone who says they won't discuss a topic Bucky Jan 2013 #52

This... zappaman Jan 2013 #65

Lincoln. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #28

JFK all the way... VOX Jan 2013 #29

FDR and Henry Wallace* stultusporcos Jan 2013 #30

In my lifetime... BlueCheese Jan 2013 #31

For me, it is a toss up between... PennsylvaniaMatt Jan 2013 #32

Good choices Dpm12 Jan 2013 #47

those are certainly the best two of my lifetime - which goes back to lbj arely staircase Jan 2013 #82

Glass Steagle zipplewrath Jan 2013 #95

Great Economy...No Wars...And A People Person to boot PennsylvaniaMatt Jan 2013 #97

No wars? zipplewrath Jan 2013 #113

I should have clarified.... PennsylvaniaMatt Jan 2013 #114

Moving goal posts zipplewrath Jan 2013 #115

I can't believe I am having to defend Bill Clinton on DemocraticUndergroud.com PennsylvaniaMatt Jan 2013 #116

It was the RELATIVE assessment zipplewrath Jan 2013 #118

#1 Lincoln #2 FDR #3 LBJ #4 Barack Obama #5 Jimmy Carter graham4anything Jan 2013 #33

Lincoln runs away with it. nevergiveup Jan 2013 #35

I am going to answer a different question dsc Jan 2013 #40

Grant is generally underrated-- not just for his presidency, but his career before that. BlueCheese Jan 2013 #44

No kidding dsc Jan 2013 #46

Fearless Trust-Buster and saver of wildlife habitat: Teddy Roosevelt NCarolinawoman Jan 2013 #41

FDR (minus the Japanese-American internment policy) Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #48

GW Puzzledtraveller Jan 2013 #49

+1 FreeJoe Jan 2013 #94

Early history fav.: Jefferson; modern history: FD Roosevelt northoftheborder Jan 2013 #51

President Obama! nt MrScorpio Jan 2013 #53

John Adams and FDR. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #54

President Obama solara Jan 2013 #56

I like President Obama. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #57

I didn't realize anyone had claimed that FDR was inferior to Obama solara Jan 2013 #60

Bill Clinton oberliner Jan 2013 #58

I typed Clinton then stopped and thought "all" XRubicon Jan 2013 #62

Favorite vs. Best oberliner Jan 2013 #63

I remember his first inauguration day. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #67

Likewise oberliner Jan 2013 #99

In My Life... JFK... In The Modernish Era... FDR... In The Expanse Of History... WillyT Jan 2013 #59

FDR nt XRubicon Jan 2013 #61

Favorite politician-president: Clinton. Favorite president-president: Carter. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #64

No love for Millard Fillmore? zappaman Jan 2013 #66

I lived on Fillmore Ave BainsBane Jan 2013 #70

I can't see your response as #43 is not showing on my screen Nika Jan 2013 #73

zzzzzzz zappaman Jan 2013 #74

All you need to do is ask a reasonable question, make a thought provoking comment Nika Jan 2013 #75

No, just go right ahead and smear LBJ... zappaman Jan 2013 #80

And so you encourage me to talk about conspiracy aspects of the Kennedy assassination, Nika Jan 2013 #83

You can discuss it. zappaman Jan 2013 #85

Great link, thanks Nika Jan 2013 #86

You can't see your own post? zappaman Jan 2013 #88

I see it in the post history section, but not on the 'tree' in the thread when logged in. Nika Jan 2013 #90

That's a question for meta. zappaman Jan 2013 #91

Creative Speculation is a sub-section here at DU? Nika Jan 2013 #92

GW Recursion Jan 2013 #68

Lincoln and FDR BainsBane Jan 2013 #69

FDR. amandabeech Jan 2013 #71

I really liked a lot of the things Teddy Roosevelt did bigwillq Jan 2013 #72

FDR. truebluegreen Jan 2013 #77

M. V. B. waz da man! Botany Jan 2013 #78

A member of the Van Buren boys, I see. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #87

Rights here! Botany Jan 2013 #89

great.. don't mess with Van B. Boys again nmbluesky Jan 2013 #100

Lincoln with FDR a close second. however arely staircase Jan 2013 #79

FDR. octoberlib Jan 2013 #81

My Top 4 legaleagle_45 Jan 2013 #84

FDR Go Vols Jan 2013 #93

Lyndon Banes Johnson 1-Old-Man Jan 2013 #96

George Washington. xoom Jan 2013 #98

Marvin Miller or Eugene Debs DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #102

PBO, FDR, LBJ, JFK underthematrix Jan 2013 #103

I'm a Big Dog fan, and b4 anyone tells me BootinUp Jan 2013 #104

FDR! I also like JFK! Obama too! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #105

Obama Science Geek Jan 2013 #106

FDR literally saved the world. He deserves more love in this thread (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #107

FDR gopiscrap Jan 2013 #108

FDR. Also a fan of Wilson, Madison, Ike, TR, and Truman. UrbScotty Jan 2013 #109

President Camacho Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2013 #110

I also liked Dpm12 Jan 2013 #112

Reagan, as a kid War Horse Jan 2013 #117

Obama Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #119