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In reply to the discussion: Damn Defeatism and Doomsaying! [View all]patrice
(47,992 posts)base-building at ***ALL*** costs with no regard as to what would actually be possibly successful with that base once they get it built, much higher in its priorities than anything that might actually work.
Maybe it's from being around an Occupy and seeing something like this, maybe it's just wider experience, when someones won't specify for you/us exactly what/where/when/why/whom/how their agenda is, when they won't commit like that, it's because they are afraid of being taken apart by whomever they are recruiting. In the case of what calls itself "the Left" that makes them EXACTLY the same as President Obama whom they have tried to harm in any and every way possible for something that they themselves have never concretely specified, that what/where/when/etc. stuff.
This means that PO and what calls itself "the Left" are competing for some of the same base and, when it comes to trusting people, I prefer those who know the most about whatever they're claiming, and don't just pick and choose things like drones (which IS an authentic and significant justice issue, btw) to take pot-shots in the name of something that is hiding behind a mask and CAN'T know everything that it is pretending to know AND refuses to specify its vision in concrete terms for fear of losing base. To me, all of that adds up to "Meet the "new" boss, SAME as the old boss."
I know exactly what Howard Zinn has to say about how all of these trade-offs worked themselves out prior to the Civil War and why all of that failed, but I don't think that means that you take up with just any old "revolution" that makes some fucking noise, especially since their charade could hurt some very very vulnerable people.