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In reply to the discussion: What do these women think about women serving in combat? [View all]pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)19. From Zack Beauchamp's response to Ryan Smith's WSJ opinion piece...
Smiths scatological suppositions dont stand up to scrutiny. As most know, irregular warfare against insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan blurred the lines between combat and non-combat roles, meaning that female soldiers have been fighting in combat in practice for roughly a decade. 292,000 American women served in combat zones during in these two wars, 152 of whom were killed in action. There is no evidence that these womens bravery damaged unit cohesion or in any other fashion worsened the ability of soldiers to do their jobs.
The evidence from foreign militaries suggest the same. Several American allies in Afghanistan allowed women to serve in frontline roles, and found that it had no effect on the performance of the unit in question. Israels Caracal Batallion, the countrys famous mixed gender combat unit, has performed admirably in combat situations.
If Smith and the Journal were interested in gender problems inside the military, theyd be better served focusing on the growing threat of sexual assault inside the ranks rather than attempting to restrict womens freedom to choose their career path. One third of military women have been sexually assaulted, roughly twice the civilian figure.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/01/24/1490151/wall-street-journal-op-ed-women-cant-be-in-combat-because-men-poop/
The evidence from foreign militaries suggest the same. Several American allies in Afghanistan allowed women to serve in frontline roles, and found that it had no effect on the performance of the unit in question. Israels Caracal Batallion, the countrys famous mixed gender combat unit, has performed admirably in combat situations.
If Smith and the Journal were interested in gender problems inside the military, theyd be better served focusing on the growing threat of sexual assault inside the ranks rather than attempting to restrict womens freedom to choose their career path. One third of military women have been sexually assaulted, roughly twice the civilian figure.
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/01/24/1490151/wall-street-journal-op-ed-women-cant-be-in-combat-because-men-poop/
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And I guess someone forgot to tell these women that they can't lift stuff good.
Starry Messenger
Jan 2013
#14
Maybe they should adjust it so men should have the stamina to stay in labor for 16 hours
Starry Messenger
Jan 2013
#25
It's appalling that women are serving and have served in combat zones but aren't considered capable
Gormy Cuss
Jan 2013
#4
Tammy was interviewed yesterday. She is all for it. When asked how she lost her legs,
whathehell
Jan 2013
#6
She's great. I met her briefly and did some phone banking for her in the primaries.
whathehell
Jan 2013
#76
I'm sorry, but if you're talking reality, then let's talk SEVEN BILLION PEOPLE...
Moonwalk
Jan 2013
#99
What kind of stupid answer is that? Do you think we're going to have a war with only two sides?
Moonwalk
Jan 2013
#100
None of those wars threatened the survival of the populations mentioned.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2013
#98
If we're involved in another Civil War (which was fought by a lot of immigrants on the North side)--
Moonwalk
Jan 2013
#101
It sounds to me like women will have an unfair advantage in evading the draft...
Moonwalk
Jan 2013
#103
Because infants and toddlers are distracting and will force the soldiers to split their attention...
Moonwalk
Jan 2013
#110