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OneTenthofOnePercent

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23. Perhaps he should urge National Gaurd to deploy to disaster areas with Dbl Barrel shotguns...
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:58 PM
Jan 2013

Last edited Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:48 PM - Edit history (1)

A shotgun will keep you a lot safer — a double-barreled shotgun — than the assault weapons in somebody’s hands that doesn’t know how to use it, even one that does know how to use it,” Biden advised. “You know, it’s hard to use an assault weapon and hit something than it is a shotgun.”



No Joe... that's silly. Any gun in the hands of an ignorant person is extremely dangerous. And at self-defense distances, a shotgun is pretty much king-of-the-hill in destructive power. I don't see how the AR15 is somehow safer. And you still have to "aim" a shotgun accurately to hit anything... even at 20 yards, a cylinder bore buckshot shot pattern may only spread about a 12" or so - so careful aiming is STILL required. Real world is not hollywood, Joe.

Personally, I would use my shotgun (a Pump Action Shotgun) and not because of Joe's silly reasons above. I'd use my pump action because it's handier than an AR15, pump action is more reliable and it has way more firepower; it's about 1 pound lighter than an AR, 7" shorter, and holds 15 rounds of 12ga 00B (9 pellets per shot). But if I didn't have my shotgun available, I'd have no problem using an AK or MAC11 or something. Then again, my home is in an Ohio suburb... hardly an area with significant disaster risk.

12ga Pump Shotgun (left), 50 round P90s (center), 16" AR15 Carbine (right)

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Neither is the right choice for Giant Asteroid Impacts ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #1
Finally a disaster I'm well armed against! Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #6
Rifles are for shooting something far away from you Bandit Jan 2013 #2
Rifles are for hunting: animals, or humans. They are for snipers aka murderers. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #15
The people who want high capacity, high powered weapons are just a little off kilter. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #3
During the northridge quake we packed as much stuff as we could into my abelenkpe Jan 2013 #4
I grew up in Northridge nick of time Jan 2013 #9
Wow! abelenkpe Jan 2013 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author nick of time Jan 2013 #20
which is more effective for the zombie apocalypse? 0rganism Jan 2013 #5
The Only Weapon You Will EVER Need ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #7
Adam West likes your style! backscatter712 Jan 2013 #31
In an earthquake sarisataka Jan 2013 #8
Do any other people think "how can I kill someone after a natural disaster"? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #10
You'd best start thinking about how you'll survive the zombie apocalypse. nt msanthrope Jan 2013 #11
I'll stick with a lawnmower muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #29
Have you played Plants vs. Zombies? You might like it. nt msanthrope Jan 2013 #37
I do think crime goes up after a natural disaster. Travis_0004 Jan 2013 #13
It'd be interesting to see some American and non-American stats on it muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #28
Hell, I went through Northridge and I never do. I was too busy fretting about how I was kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #16
He's right, of course Politicub Jan 2013 #12
Hollywood myth 273.9 sarisataka Jan 2013 #19
Well okay then Politicub Jan 2013 #24
No worries sarisataka Jan 2013 #38
He is wrong, of course, as are you ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #32
You have no idea what you're talking about Politicub Jan 2013 #33
A while back I posted photos of test shots that demonstrated that you are quite wrong ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #34
ProgressiveProfessor knows more about this than you. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #35
"a double-barreled shotgun"? Naw, a slide action. trof Jan 2013 #14
Well, of course. that's what Mad Max had. Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #17
I'll trade my AR-15 for a shotgun, no problem NickB79 Jan 2013 #21
Uh oh lancer78 Jan 2013 #27
If AR-15's and high capacity magazines are these powerful death machines madville Jan 2013 #22
Perhaps he should urge National Gaurd to deploy to disaster areas with Dbl Barrel shotguns... OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #23
A shotgun is deadly at very close range, AR's have more reach NightWatcher Jan 2013 #25
False. Deep13 Jan 2013 #26
Admittedly I'm not in earthquake country LiberalElite Jan 2013 #30
Joe, you're free to have your double-barreled shotgun, but I'll keep my AR15. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #36
Joe never fails to kick ass! Odin2005 Jan 2013 #39
Another Vice Presidential endorsement of shotguns ... lpbk2713 Jan 2013 #40
But where does he stand on hunting wascally wabbits? NickB79 Jan 2013 #41
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