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RainDog

(28,784 posts)
17. see, this is what I know - I am not going to agree with everyone on every issue
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:52 AM
Jan 2013

I can support the Democratic party but still find issue with some of their stances and actions.

Biden is no better or worse than a lot of other politicians.

What will happen, and what is happening slowly, and has happened for many at the state level already, is that the federal-level politicians will have to give up their stances because they don't align with the American voting population.

Then they'll just not want to bring up the issue.

It's like the evolution of Robert Byrd. As a Southern Democrat, he supported horrid segregation legislation because that's what got him elected. Over time, however, even the people in his state had to back off on their reflexive racism because such a stance was no longer normalized at the federal level because so many people saw how wrong the Southern attitude was. When Bush was hawking the war on Iraq, people on DU were praising Byrd and were intentionally forgetful of the wrong decisions he made - they were wrong, ethically, but not wrong, politically, because, until the Civil Rights Act, Southern Democrats could align with white racists and win - that was one of the Democratic Party's strongest voting blocs, in fact.

But Byrd said he had learned. Maybe he had. I think the example that MLK gave to the world in such a situation was to forgive and move on, because Byrd was trying to stand up for something good, rather than something that was inherently repulsive.

I don't know why Biden has such backwards attitudes about cannabis, or even why he thinks the war on drugs accomplishes anything useful.

But I also have hope that he can change - as we've seen other pols change with the times.

Personally, I hope Biden doesn't run for president, but when my choice is Biden or some Republican who is beholden to some of the most hateful groups in the U.S. - including some of the most unreconstructed racists in this land - I'd vote for Biden every time.

Well, hell, they can't beat up on Wall Street Crooks! So they gotta beat up on someone! villager Jan 2013 #1
banks are too big to fail! - kick a veteran in the ass- no problem! RainDog Jan 2013 #3
Prohibition is a failed public policy...again nt TeamPooka Jan 2013 #2
intransigence causes harm RainDog Jan 2013 #4
+1 limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #7
+1,000 xoom Jan 2013 #9
kickety RainDog Jan 2013 #5
is this post an ad hominem attack? RainDog Jan 2013 #6
I believe we'll see some sanity in the 2nd term. Get out of Grandma's stash, for god's sake. libdem4life Jan 2013 #8
If I were a betting person RainDog Jan 2013 #10
I do think that. There is a large retirement, semi-rural development in No Cal. Last year a head libdem4life Jan 2013 #12
The division on this issue doesn't always fall on neatly partisan lines RainDog Jan 2013 #13
"want to pretend it's only Republicans who keep bad law in place" green for victory Jan 2013 #15
He lost a lot of support from the very issues you point out. I'd never vote for anyone who DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Jan 2013 #16
see, this is what I know - I am not going to agree with everyone on every issue RainDog Jan 2013 #17
In a way this reminds me of gay marriage.the issue is moving forward because people are experiencing libdem4life Jan 2013 #18
Yes. Social issues are usually grass roots RainDog Jan 2013 #20
Spot on...he also decimated mental health care in California...while he had Alzheimer's or libdem4life Jan 2013 #21
Off To The Greatest Page !!! WillyT Jan 2013 #11
$ green for victory Jan 2013 #14
One of the people discussing the case mentioned the patent issue RainDog Jan 2013 #19
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